Large India Painting - Is This a Mughal? Why Are They Never Signed by Artist?

Discussion in 'Art' started by journeymagazine, Jun 7, 2021.

  1. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    This is the 2nd painting I got today from a local thrift store. I believe it;s a Mughal(?)
    It's big - 46.5" x 35.5" w/frame!
    What's the difference between a Mughal and a reg painting from India? - The Mughal paintings seem to bring more money!
    It looks like a story (or a village?).
    Why don't the artists sign them?
    Thanks - hope you like the painting!

    ART PAINTING INDIA MUGHAL 1AA.JPG ART PAINTING INDIA MUGHAL 2AA.JPG ART PAINTING INDIA MUGHAL 3AA.JPG ART PAINTING INDIA MUGHAL 3BAA.JPG ART PAINTING INDIA MUGHAL 3CAA.JPG ART PAINTING INDIA MUGHAL 3DAA.JPG ART PAINTING INDIA MUGHAL 4AA.JPG ART PAINTING INDIA MUGHAL 5AA.JPG
     
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  2. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    My first reaction would have been Persian or Kashmiri. Beyond that, dunno.
     
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  3. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is very nice and well painted, journey, but it isn't old enough to be Mughal. The Mughal period stopped in the 1850s. The style is also different.
    Does it say India anywhere? It is a fairly recent painting, and looks more Turkish than Indian to me.
     
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  4. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Mughal refers to the period of the Mughal Empire in the region of northern India, 1526-1857.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mughal_Empire

    The paintings during this time were usually miniature illustrations in books, not larger paintings on canvas.
    https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-astounding-miniature-paintings-indias-mughal-empire#:~:text=Mughal miniatures were small (many,composed of a single hair.

    The one you have found is probably a recent (and enlarged) reproduction, such as those offered by this company:
    https://www.greatbigcanvas.com/view...qX9bPHUY5GwLj9diR9yTwmQ0vM2CJm5YaAkkpEALw_wcB
     
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  5. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    It's more ambitious than what you usually see.
     
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  6. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    So what do I call it when listing it?
    Thank you all!
     
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  7. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Would I call it Asian, Kashmiri or Indian?
     
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  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Given the different types of fez and turban combinations, I still think Turkish. This is a scene which shows different types of headdresses known in the Ottoman empire, including the pointed hats which used to be worn by Arab nomads.
    The very high fez (in the tent bottom right) was worn by Ottoman Hajjis I think (people who had been on pilgrimage to Mecca).

    Turkish Sultans wearing a fez and turban:

    Abdul Hamid I
    [​IMG]

    Suleiman the Magnificent
    [​IMG]

    By comparison, the Mughal turbans:

    Shah Jahan
    [​IMG]

    Shah Jahangir
    [​IMG]
     
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  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

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  10. reader

    reader Well-Known Member

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  11. Roshan Ko

    Roshan Ko Well-Known Member

    I dont really think this is Indian or Mughal painting.
    As AJ has already explained this is not Mughal.

    The faces seem off and don't seem Indian at all. The eyes seem narrower and longer.
     
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  12. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

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  13. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I agree. The general feel is also not Indian, a subtle thing but I'm sure you know what I mean.

    The connecting factor in both Mughal and Turkish miniatures are Persian miniatures, but since the cultures are different, the interpretation and details are different.
     
  14. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

  15. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    They still make these paintings in Turkey. And since this is one with a nice modern twist, it is fairly recent. Very well painted too.
     
  16. TT Antique

    TT Antique Active Member

    If you are not sure of an exact descriptive name, you can use the generic term "oriental".

    TTA
     
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