Featured Large Indian chief photo

Discussion in 'Ephemera and Photographs' started by charlie cheswick, May 16, 2019 at 2:18 PM.

  1. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    Hey again

    Something else I picked up, just cause I thought it was cool !!

    There seems to be names dates everywhere, and photographer on back, doesn't match with what's signed on front

    Title on front states Indian chief

    Any info appreciated

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  2. ulilwitch

    ulilwitch Well-Known Member

    He is such a proud man. Great photo. I would contact the Spokane Camera Club to see if they can help you.
     
  3. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    If I'm reading this correctly, Mr. Sparkes, whose name is listed on the back as the photographer, passed away in 1996. (See last obit on this page: https://www.spokesman.com/stories/1996/apr/30/obituaries/ )

    If the photo was exhibited in 1999, perhaps the person who exhibited it made a new print from the negative, and matted and framed it to exhibit. For people who know what they are doing with photography, making high-quality prints from negatives can be an art.

    Just one theory...

    (Edit) my date error has been pointed out.
     
    Last edited: May 16, 2019 at 7:58 PM
  4. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    Good bit of digging there figtree, thanks, seems to tie up well

    The dates(exhibited) on the back are 1967 and 1989, so in his lifetime, I guess
     
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  5. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Great theory except that the date of the exhibition is in 1989.
     
  6. Dawnno

    Dawnno Well-Known Member

    Reminiscent of the Great Northern Railway photos and publicity associated with the Blackfeet/Blackfoot in Montana, e.g., Hileman photos (see avatar to left). Your photo was taken in 1967 per the backside, and that time is entirely consistent with the period regalia in the photo.

    So I checked on "margaret rickman" in MT, and there was a lady who died in 2012 that had moved to Washington state in later life. Maiden name "madden". Couldn't locate a chief by that last name. If you have time, I'd pursue that general direction: "Go East, Young Man." towards Montana.
     
  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Margaret put it in the exhibit ..............
     
  8. Dawnno

    Dawnno Well-Known Member

    possibly, but why does the handwriting change... notice that "margaret cousin" seems to be added to "Rickmans" ... curious. Like multiple layers of 'annotations' about the photo.
     
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  9. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Someone at exhibition added some info. It's the Rickmans that looks like the addition to me.
     
  10. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    Just to confuse things even more, there's a name beneath the society of America sticker, beginning with Robert, and the Indian chief title
     
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  11. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    But maybe this is the date it was originally shown in public?

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    Does this show in photo? The chief's name may have been Robert _____.
     
  12. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    The name underneath looks like Robert wick, which would fit in with the initials on the front
     
  13. Dawnno

    Dawnno Well-Known Member

  14. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    Arrr, she looks a love
     
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  15. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    Is that Iron Eyes Cody from the 70s anti littering commercials?
     
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  16. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    So Italian after all :)
     
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  17. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    I think that John Sparks was Margaret Rickman's cousin.
    I also think it is all the same handwriting. The "K" is the same in Spokane and in Rickman (backward c for second part of the K). N's have the same point in all of them. Dot for I is off to right and a slash in same direction. A is made the same with point where stem comes down
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  18. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Did you show a picture of this?
    I'm not seeing it.
     
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  19. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Agree. My guess: someone started to print the last name for legibility, then lapsed into cursive, which is the only way adults used to write.
     
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  20. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    Hey cc

    You can see it under the sticker

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