Featured Madonna for Austro-Hungarian locket, help please

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  1. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Inside this Austro-Hungarian gilded and enamelled locket is a small photo of a Madonna with child. The photo is not contemporary, it is 20th century, and some (..) glued it to the glass.
    The photo is extremely dark, maybe because of the glue, and the poor girl is hardly recognizable. I would like to replace it with a better photo, preferably of the same Madonna. And no glue!
    I have been searching the web, using different search terms in different languages, nothing.:( Can our wonderful supersleuths help me please?:)

    I tweaked the photo, this is the best I could do.
    As you can see, the Madonna is wearing the usual red dress and blue cloak. She could be wearing a crown. Jesus is on her left arm, in white, and his left arm reaches toward the left. Mary seems to be touching him with her right hand.
    The original could be Baroque or slightly later.
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    The locket:
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    Thank you for looking.:)
     
  2. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    Our friend Silverwaite just called me and said the photo of the Madonna and Child is by Murillo. She was so excited to be able to ID something.
    greg
     
  3. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Hi Greg, that is so sweet of her, thank you, and thank you @silverthwait .:)
    I can't find a Murillo Madonna which looks like this one though. Maybe I haven't searched enough, but I don't see a baby Jesus in a white dress with an outstretched arm.
    I didn't mention this before, but the blue cloak of this Madonna looks to be draped over her right arm as well as her left arm.
     
    Last edited: Jul 25, 2020
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  4. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

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    tweaked it a bit, HTH
     
  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Thanks blooey.:)
    It is so dark in real life, at first I thought it was an old mirror that had turned black over time. With a loupe I managed to discern the Madonna.
     
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  6. judy

    judy Well-Known Member

    Beautiful locket!
     
  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Thank you judy.:kiss:
     
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  8. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Maybe my imagination but it looks like the madonna is wearing a crown, that would suggest a bohemian or hungarian interpreter, no?
     
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  9. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    On even closer examination, :peeking::hilarious: it seems the child is also crowned.
     
  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I think she is, but I'm not sure.
    In Roman Catholic parts of Europe rich people donate silver and gold crowns to miraculous Madonna statues out of gratitude.

    This is a Dutch Madonna, 'Sterre der zee' or Star of the Sea. She owns several crowns, and several matching sets of 'clothing' for both of them ;):
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  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse!:facepalm::hilarious:
     
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  12. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Gotta get me a religion business, no taxes too, what a blessing.
     
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  13. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    You can start small, just a tree with some silver hearts and limbs hanging from the branches. Like this one a couple of miles from where I live:

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  14. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Nah, too late for me, I'll leave it to the hucksters.
     
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  15. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    That's a difficult one, for sure. I've been searching but no luck so far. :(
     
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  16. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    Maybe something based on the Denar coin?
     
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  17. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Update:
    Since I couldn't find the Madonna, I decided on a photo of Austro-Hungarian empress/queen Elisabeth (Sissi) instead.:)

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    It is a lady's locket, so maybe I should have put a photo of emperor Franz-Josef in, but he just wasn't as pretty.;)
     
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2020
  18. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Beautiful photo, and it will go nicely with the locket.
     
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  19. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Thanks, Fig. I thought it was appropriate both as a picture and a subject.:)
     
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  20. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    Very nice, AJ! :)
     
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