Featured Many many german and dutch silver, I cannot find the hall mark of them ,seems mostly are continental

Discussion in 'Silver' started by Asian Fever, Sep 29, 2018.

  1. Asian Fever

    Asian Fever Well-Known Member

  2. Asian Fever

    Asian Fever Well-Known Member

    2nd: silver plated?

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  3. Asian Fever

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  4. Asian Fever

    Asian Fever Well-Known Member

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  5. Asian Fever

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  7. Asian Fever

    Asian Fever Well-Known Member

    This bowl is pretty large, almost 8 inch in diameter. close to 21 oz

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  8. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    dat's a lot of nice silver !!!!
     
  9. Asian Fever

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  10. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    from what little I see, my guess is 1) Italian 2) Dutch 833. then I see a German with crown and moon, the 1 meaning it is part of a set.
     
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  11. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    last one is Augsburg. with a faint possibility that it's Hanau.:happy:
     
  12. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I'm with Fid. The last one looks like a bunch of grapes rather than a pine cone to me, so my vote is for one of the Hanau manufacturers (Neumann, Storck & Sinnsheimer?) rather than the Augsburg town mark.
    The Dutch one could be a marriage of export pieces. To cater for the 'Hollandmania' of the late 19th century. Could be a little later, but not much.
    Here is a page with S. Kirk & Son marks, I can't see yours, but my guess is it is before 1896:
    https://www.925-1000.com/Kirk_Date_Code.html

    Asian, could we see closeups of the Italian and Dutch lion marks? Is there a separate assay office mark on the Dutch one? That is a Minerva head, with a helmet.
     
  13. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    The first, Italian piece was made by De Giovanni Argenteria in Milan (572 MI) - the registration was issued in 1957, that style of mark would date no later than 1968.

    The second, Dutch set would be by either Hooijkaas, mark used 1906-24, or Hermanus Hartman, mark used 1889-1910, both of Schoonhoven - might look for a date letter as well as the Minerva head...

    The pair of pedestal bowls is by International Silver/Barbour Silver, probably mid 20th century, would have to dig into my files to be sure on the dating - it's early, having a hard time remembering when that script mark was in use...

    The mark on the Kirk bowl should date from 1932-99.

    Agree the last piece looks like Hanau silver by Storck & Sinsheimer.

    ~Cheryl
     
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  14. Asian Fever

    Asian Fever Well-Known Member

    Wow. Lots of useful information. I have no idea for most of them. Thank you so much for your information and help. :kiss:
     
  15. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    International Silver and Kirk & Sons are both American names.
     
  16. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    THAT'S a Lovely collection of silver, Asian Fever!!!!
     
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  17. Asian Fever

    Asian Fever Well-Known Member

    It's so bad. I cannot take a closer picture, I got a Cannon prefessional carama but I have no idea how take close pictures of my items. :hungover:
     
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  18. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    usually it's a flower & leaves icon...that stands for close up...

    find it !
     
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  19. Asian Fever

    Asian Fever Well-Known Member

    This is another mark on this. Just found it.
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    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

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