Featured meaning of symbols on early 19th century signet ring

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by BradleyM, Nov 15, 2021.

  1. BradleyM

    BradleyM New Member

    I'm unsure if the symbols on the lower half of this signet ring are some foreign script or just symbols

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  2. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    Id guess its a seal ring. Arabic .
     
  3. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    The ring would make an impression that looks like this (your image flipped & rotated):

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    The characters at the top between the 2 that look like Saturn say 1809, which is not necessarily the date of the seal.
     
  4. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Can you show the whole ring, please?

    Certainly Arabic, but there's some odd symbology.
     
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  5. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Intaglios with Arabic inscriptions are plentiful, but this one with a combination of Arabic & Roman letters is odd.
     
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  6. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Carnelian intaglios are also plentiful. However, here there may be additional significance. Some Arabic men wear a ring with a carnelian stone because the Prophet is said to have had such a ring. See aqeeq/aqiq/akik.
     
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  7. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Although it is written in the Arabic fashion, 1809 as a year has not yet occurred in the Muslim calendar, so, if a date, a western one.

    I see squiggles that suggest Arabic to someone who does not read that language, but none that look like genuine letters, even allowing for some calligraphic license.

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    Except for the numerals, the 'Arabic' part is probably fantasy.
     
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  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    True, we have to wait until 2431.;)
    The number could be from an Islamic numerological system, which is important in healing, protection, good fortune, etc. The star and planet symbols could be connected to the numerological symbolism.
     
  9. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I think this has as much Arabic significance as the Shriners do. More likely 'CC' wanted something pseudo-esoteric/gnostic. May have had an interest in such intaglios from antiquity.
     
  10. BradleyM

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  11. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

  12. BradleyM

    BradleyM New Member

    Colin Campbell
    ob: 6 June
    1819
     
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  13. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    gibberish removed
     
  14. BradleyM

    BradleyM New Member

    I have no idea what size it is, I'm no ring expert
     
  15. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Why 1809 on the front - that's definitely what it says - & 1819 on the back? What happened 10 years before the death?
     
  16. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    If you have fingers you're enough of an expert for this. Does it fit any of your fingers? If so, which one.
     
  17. BradleyM

    BradleyM New Member

    Fits nicely on the ring finger i guess
     
  18. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Where in the world was this found?
     
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  19. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Is it safe then to say it is large enough to fit a man? It would be unusual for a man to wear jewelllery in remembrance of another man, but no reason not. Again, some women have titanic fingers.

    Did you buy or inherit the ring? Can we see the shoulders (the parts of the band next to the stone)? Are there any markings inside the band? Once we get hold of an item, we love to learn all about it.
     
  20. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I'd wager Britain.
     
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