More Pocket Watches-Special?

Both pocket watches are their missing glass covers
Left watch 18k, two letters look like AC maker name? Key wound and no key to check if working, nice river scene on back cover

Right Watch 14k, no maker, little push release at top. repousse floral back cover

Markers anyone and should I invest in glass before resale?

Thanks Bear for reminding about these watches from your post.

 

They look like rather standard pocketwatches...With gold cases they might be worth repairing, but it's going to be very expensive. You need new crystals, new hands, and the movements need to be stripped and cleaned, oiled and reassembled.

Once they're working, I'm not sure how much you'd make in profit. I guess it goes on the value of the gold cases. But I can tell you this much - don't scrap the gold! Gold watches like these are rare as hell. If it was ME, I'd have them serviced and running and repaired.

The crown-winding watch has a pin on the side of the case. That's for setting the hands. You press in the pin and set the time, then the pin pops out again. I've got one of those in my collection, from the 1890s.

 

Thank you Shangas for the input. Probably fix one and give to my daughter, she likes the floral one. The other I will sell as is to cover the cost of the repair.

 

Glad I was of some help! They're both beautiful watches, worthy of restoration. It won't be cheap, but the personal satisfaction will be immense.

 

about to sell the 18k pocket watch to a watch dealer. Does anyone know what the ACmark stands for?

 

Either a town or some gubmint official. Not consequential.

 

thanks Terry, I have one watch reference book and couldn't make a match.

 

They both appear to be lady's size watches, which are fairly common and generally sell for about the gold metal value. They have Swiss barred cylinder movements of typical form. The key wind example is about 1870, the top wind example around 1890 - 1910.
I notice the cuvette of the 18k example is base metal. Typically these watches were made of relatively little gold compared with British or American gold cases, just enough to be strong enough. I'd expect the gold weight of the 18k example to be about 10 grams.

 

They're definitely ladies' watches, that's a given. The decoration on the case and the size make that obvious.

Crown-wind watches came into being in the 1850s, I think. But the technology was slow to catch on (it would've meant a lot of retooling, etc). By the 1870s, I think it was already being used in the 'States, but in Europe (which is where I believe it was invented by Patek Philippe), key-operated watches lasted a lot longer.

 

Thank you both for your valuable input. The info give me enough info to figure my asking price.