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  1. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    Hello again, and Happier New Year to all!

    I have a couple more items that I can't identify.

    One is a larger basket, one in a lot of Northwest baskets. It seems to have been stained and to have had something stitched to it at one time. Maybe felt?

    The second one, the small stone walrus, reminds me of Inuit carvings, but it's unsigned and I don't know enough to say if the stone looks 'right.'

    And on the larger carving, I can't find a name to match with the combination of syllabics and numbers on the bottom. (And, btw, I don't know what the boy is doing to the seal?!?)

    Thank you so much for looking!
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  2. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Stone on the boy/seal looks like the old Port Harrison material and that's the old version of the sticker... no doubt someone will be along to clarify/identify.
    The #2 will tell you the location (I forgot what 2 is but think it's what I said above)
     
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  3. all_fakes

    all_fakes Well-Known Member

    As blooey says, the carvings look good; the basket, I'd think is not Makah or Nootka - the bottom does not look quite right for those. Other than that, baskets aren't my core area. @Taupou
     
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  4. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    Thank you-- I did wonder about the stone on the larger of the carvings, and if it wasn't serpentine.
     
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  5. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    I wasn't too far off - #2 is Great Whale River, just up the road from Port Harrison - I thought the stone looked like the old stuff from that area:rolleyes:

    Oh and I just checked with one of my old pieces - your sticker is the later version not the early one - no biggie though, still not too new either!
     
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  6. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    Nice! Thank you for identifying that!
     
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  7. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    The basket looks like it is made from some type of palm fiber. I have not seen this particular technique before. It does not appear to be typical twining, but rather a combination of stakes (the flat, radiating parts) and coiling. I don't think it is Native American, but not sure where it might be from. Perhaps Taupou will recognize it. @komokwa?
     
  8. patd8643

    patd8643 Well-Known Member

    @Taupou Help on basket? Thanks.
     
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  9. Taupou

    Taupou Well-Known Member

    The basket has the typical spoke-like start associated with Chinese baskets, but I wouldn't say definitely that's what it is.

    It's difficult to determine the material it's made with from the photo. The "Z" twist to the twining would be a clue also, as well as the kind of vertical or ribbed orientation appearance of the twining stitches on the outside.

    In one of the photos, it almost looks like there are remnants of colors, like paint (?) on the sides. If so, I would lean more toward it being one of those Chinese sewing basket, that have a painted design on the outside, missing its lid. Not the split bamboo ones, with the beads, coins, tassels, and glass rings, (but I can't find any illustrations of them right now.)

    Sorry I can't be of more help on this one.
     
  10. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    I do think that it was painted or stained, and that it had a lid at one time, so those are good clues. When in doubt, it seems, a Chinese origin is a safe bet for what I keep finding.

    Thanks again for your expertise!
     
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