Native American Pottery Frog

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  1. Cartat2s

    Cartat2s New Member

    Hey guys
    Thanks for having me here.
    I wanted to share a recent estate sale find and see if someone could give me and information on it.
    The pot is 5.5 inches tall at its highest point.
    Has P1015 Frog DN-DST in marker on the bottom
    Then some more numbers on top
    Any help would be great !
     

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  2. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    It's trying to be a Native American item. But whether it's really one, or something else will require an expert. @Taupou Can you help please?
     
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  3. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

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    the black writing is newer.......above it...not so much...
    my 1st thought is a Museum deaccession ..
     
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  4. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Yes, that's what the numbers would lead one to believe.

    Debora
     
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  5. Roaring20s

    Roaring20s Well-Known Member

    There is a well known family of Hopi potters by the name of Nampeyo, there is a Daisy, Dan, and Dextra (DN?).

    Not finding examples of this form of frog decoration by this family.

    James.
     
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  6. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    I'm thinking it might be Mata Ortiz.
     
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  7. Taupou

    Taupou Well-Known Member

    No, it isn't Hopi, or Native American. It's Mexican, from the village of Mata Ortiz.

    When the pottery first came on the market in the 1980s, many of the potters copied pre-historic pottery from the nearby ruins of Paquime, which was a Casas Grandes culture that disappeared in the 1400s. Many of their pieces were such good copies that they ended up in museum collections, identified as authentic Casas Grandes pottery.

    I would suspect that is what this is. It's definitely not Hopi or Native American, and classic Casas Grandes "style," but unlikely that it's older than the 1980s, and most likely made by Mexican potters, not Native American. None of the potters at Mata Ortiz claim any tribal affiliation, and today most make what the Mexican government classifies as contemporary Mexican Art Pottery.
     
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  8. Roaring20s

    Roaring20s Well-Known Member

    That frog form is turning up in a Mata Ortiz search. Good call!
     
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  9. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    Def agree Mata Ortiz, and also think the 'f' in 'frog' is actually a +. The almost flawless paint doesn't look like it's centuries old.
     
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