Need help dating and identifying this couple

I just bought these. Very curious about the mark and the maker. There seems to be a date on the bottom.

 

Maybe 1817??? AND WELCOME to ANTIQUERS....the impression is very unclear!! Others will have to help on the maker!!

 

Thank you. These are not my pictures. I ordered them and they are on the way. I am wondering if it is indeed a date or just item number.

 

It looks like 1814 or 1819 with a three leaf clover. Not finding the arrow mark yet.

 

Thanks. I will take better pics when I get them.

 

Welcome MHJ.
A very pretty pair. Here they are full image, so everyone can see:

 

This mark has appeared on the board before. It was mentioned about the Nonne mark so I thought I'd show it from Röntgen's book Marks on German, Bohemian and Austrian Porcelain. Aelteste Volkstedter is mentioned as producing similar items.

https://www.antiquers.com/threads/german-porcelain-figurines.20860/

It seems that there are others selling things with this mark calling it Nonne but I haven't seen any with references yet. It might be worthwhile looking at French porcelain also.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Antiq...n-Figurine-from-The-Arts-series-/123747412549

There is a clover mark used by various factories but most of these mention that it's painted.

 

Hi. thanks. Yes, a couple of others said it was Nonne, but I did not find this mark associated with any of his pieces. And if the number on the bottom is a date, it couldn't be Nonne because he died in 1813

 

Most numbers you see are not dates, but model numbers. Dating was often a letter or symbol code of some kind - as apparently the shape of the clover is.

 

If I'm seeing what SIS posted correctly, this is the one that seems to match.


Oh wait, it's supposed to be glazed.
Sorry,

 

My husband saw the letter c with a capital R next to it. It's hard to tell until I see them in person at the end of this week. I cannot find much about the blue double headed arrow. frustrating