need help for a Beaded Purse Handbag Dog design

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  1. jingyel

    jingyel Well-Known Member

  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    that's a lot of seed beads !!!!
    and while there are condition issues.....75 seems low..
  3. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    I don't mean to be rude but... Isn't that the type of research you should have done before listing your item on eBay?

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  4. jingyel

    jingyel Well-Known Member

    reasonable questioning. But there is a big rang of price of similar items and I don't have the knowledge to tell the difference......
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  5. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    In that condition Id jump on the offer.
  6. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    The zipper and chain at the top look quite recent.
  7. jingyel

    jingyel Well-Known Member

    Maybe not original?
  8. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    The zipper is plastic, so 1960s or later, but the beadwork could be much older. Someone made that by hand and did a nice job of it too. I'm not going to tell you what price to put on that, but it would be worth a lot more if the condition was better.
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  9. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Without photos of the inside (none posted in your eBay listing, either), I'm not going to venture a guess as to age and whether the zipper is a modification or original.
    That said, in it's current condition, I'd grab the $75. But that's just me.
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  10. elarnia

    elarnia SIWL

    It looks like someone separated this from it's original frame. I would be surprised at an offer that high except that dogs are not very common in beading and people do collect dogs. If I bought it I would rescue the blue panel and fix it with beads from the rest, then mount it in another piece. (Well - full disclosure-wise - I would plan to do that while putting it in a box and putting it somewhere safe where I'll never find it when I have time for it :angelic:) I'd grab the $75. cheers
  11. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Agree that photos of the inside should have been added. But I guess the person who gets this will be mostly after the beadwork, so hopefully your photos show that the inside was likely replaced.

    It is hard to predict with something like this. Will two buyers have to have it? You'll probably never see another, so have that going for you.

    My personal feeling is that (if fresh smelling, no mildew, etc.) it is worth more than $75, even with condition issues. It's a real work of art and desirable subject. People get emotional about dogs, and I can't recall ever seeing a dog like this on an antique beaded bag before. Nice it has the maker's initials on the back. But what sells for over $75 one day might not on the next day. (And again, guessing, but with damage, if you had active bidding, I do not think that the final value would exceed much over $125.) Not like it is worth thousands. So maybe you can't go too wrong with a solid offer of $75.

    If you DO decide to accept the offer, since you can "choose the buyer or not" be sure to check the potential buyer's Feedback left for others. No point selling it to someone who leaves lot of negatives. The ability to check that adds a little extra value to the offer, too.
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  12. jingyel

    jingyel Well-Known Member

    "No point selling it to someone who leaves lot of negatives. "----Agreed. Thank you for your suggestion. I will check.
  13. Poisonivy

    Poisonivy Well-Known Member

    It's Victorian, I couldn't pin it down to a year though, the zip and chain don't belong, it would have had a clasp, maybe silver or plated.
    That design is rare, it needs work but someone might like to restore it because the design isn't common.
    I've never seen one like that and I've collected beadwork for a long time.
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  14. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    So would have started out life like this reticule. And modified with a zipper and chain in the late 1960s/early 1970s.


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  15. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    that would account for the damage being mostly on the sides..
  16. jingyel

    jingyel Well-Known Member

    It looks similar to mine. And noticed the base clothes underneath, it shows similar texture.
  17. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Base clothes? Do you mean the canvas?

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  18. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    are those french cut steel beads in the greek key design?
  19. Poisonivy

    Poisonivy Well-Known Member

    I think they're brass.
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  20. jingyel

    jingyel Well-Known Member

    Thank you all for the comments.
    Quick update. the item was sold at $154. Not a big surprise.
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