Need help identifying chair

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  1. chairlady

    chairlady New Member

    Hi, I need help identifying a pair of chairs that were obtained from Austria couple of months ago. The seller had no clue about their history/place of origin. No mark or label anywhere. They are canned with a seven step technique. The back of the chair is canned with a blind technique and for the seventh step wooden pins are used, so I presume they date before 1850. Any info would be much appreciated.
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  2. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Welcome! :)
    The 'furnys' will want to see more detail and better photos especially of any marks.
     
  3. chairlady

    chairlady New Member

    I am still fighting with to big files :)
     
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  4. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    After adjusting them try drag and drop. :)
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  5. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Welcome chairlady. Sounds like you already know more about caning than any of us, but we have some people who are good with styles.
     
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  6. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    I more so meant always please. :)
     
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  7. chairlady

    chairlady New Member

    Hi guys

    Thanks a lot for instructions. I had a problem with image size and finally won the battle with my laptop :)
    About the chairs, there are no labels or marks anywhere on them. As I said, blind canning is used only for the back of the chairs, but the seat is canned as usually.
    The wood - walnut?

    I am not native English speaker so please accept apologies for my English.


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    This is back of the chair from the hind side.

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    Seat of the chair from the lower side.

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    Seat of the chair from upper side.

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    Back of the chair - front.

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  8. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Chairs appear to be beech or, possibly, some type of fruit wood. not walnut. Definitely hand carved. Style is basically French but something about the shape of the back and form of the crest carving says un-French to me. Can't really delineate my thoughts beyond that. Never heard of dating furniture from the caning as suggested but maybe that is possible. The nuances of European furniture is really not my forte' so would bow to those with more expertise.
     
  9. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    your english is fine.....
     
  10. chairlady

    chairlady New Member

    Hi

    verybrad, thank you. I read this (seventh step done with a help of wooden pegs) in this book:
    Cook, W., 2003: The Complete Guide to Repairing and Restoring Furniture. London: Lorenz Book
    I will try to produce more photos of the wood structure and upload it tonight.
     
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  11. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    The carved floral decoration is surprisingly simple compared with other features of the chair. Flowers of the forget-me-not (myosotis) type. Because of the name, they had sentimental significance during the Victorian era in English speaking countries. I do not know if this contributes in any way to identifying the time or place of the making.
     
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  12. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    I concur. :)
     
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  13. chairlady

    chairlady New Member

    Hi, I took some more pictures of the wood structure.
     

    Attached Files:

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  14. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Still either beech or a fruitwood. Difficult to them them apart and both were used for chairs. I would think more likely beech. You only see fruitwoods being used occasionally and generally from France.
     
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  15. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Cherry maybe?
     
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  16. Jeff Drum

    Jeff Drum Well-Known Member

    I see this as definitely not pre-1850, but as late victorian or possibly early 20th century. There was no need to piece and glue together small pieces of wood back pre-1850, (as seen in your last set of pictures of the top piece with the carving) nor would wood members be joined as they are. What country did you buy it in?
     
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  17. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Full image? :(
     
  18. chairlady

    chairlady New Member

    Hi, thank you for the suggestions. I bought it in Slovenia (my beautiful country :), but was told that the chairs were brought from Austria. Both Slovenia and Austria were part of AustroHungarian monarchy before 1918. I was thinking more about early 20th century...but then read about pegs being used for seventh step of canning in chairs before 1850 and got confused.
     
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