Featured Need help unable to identify hallmark.

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by Lennyt, Jun 16, 2019.

  1. Lennyt

    Lennyt Well-Known Member

    I bought this compact / cigarette case several months ago. Have been trying to figure out composition and country of origin.
    Every time I look at hallmarks new shapes pop out in my head :)
    It is like a bad psychology test :)

    Please take a look and see if you can identify what is stamped on this item.

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  2. Lennyt

    Lennyt Well-Known Member

  3. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    What a pretty piece; what annoying marks. Are you able to rotate this pic 180? Fineness mark that says 858?

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  4. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    A Portuguese silver mark?
    (Used post-1985.)

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  5. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

  6. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Hmmm, the symbol is the wrong way round so maybe not.
     
  7. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    I had been trying to make it work, too, but I can’t see it.
     
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  8. Lennyt

    Lennyt Well-Known Member

    What numbers do you see? 833 or 835? Or maybe something else?
     
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  9. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    Can you take a close up of just that one mark?
     
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  10. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I think I'm seeing 858, but is a bit off for any fineness system I know, close to, but not equal to 21K gold. I usually find that when I can't make sense, it's because some assumption of mine is wrong.
     
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  11. Lennyt

    Lennyt Well-Known Member

    I will try with different camera. Can't get any better shot with the phone.
     
  12. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    In this case it may be wrong to assume it is an assay mark rather than a maker's mark.
     
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  13. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Anyone else think it's a crown over the number?
     
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  14. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Until there's another picture:

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  15. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Ok, Ok, Don't shoot. You can have the compact CC.
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  16. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    I have seen similar filigree items being made in Malta.
     
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  17. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    it's very nice..........
     
  18. Lennyt

    Lennyt Well-Known Member

    I quess I would have to do acid testing....
     
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  19. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

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  20. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    I'm still thinking 835/833 gilt silver.

    EDIT: Beautiful compact, by the way!
     
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