need help with this ginger jar if that's what it is?

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by jakes vintage, Mar 25, 2015.

  1. jakes vintage

    jakes vintage Well-Known Member

    Got it today and would really like to know more about it. I wouldn't think it's too old since there's no staining on the unglazed part of the bottom..Is it a ginger jar? I've never seen one this big before also does the pattern have a name? Any info would be great!
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  2. Mat

    Mat Well-Known Member

    Hi, yes, the shape is that of a Chinese ginger jar. You are right, it looks quite new, and the decoration is printed. These are still produced as decorative items...
    Mat
     
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  3. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Agree. Chinese, recent. Besides all of the above, the foot rim is not of an antique jar.
     
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  4. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

    Kardinalisimo. I pass on these whenever I see them because I have no idea how to tell if these are modern, mass produced or old. Can you tell us what the difference is on the base? That would be very helpful. Thank you.
     
  5. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    As a general rule for older jar you don't want the inside of the foot rim to be slanted outwards but straight. Could be straight or oblique on the outside. Of course, some jars could have flat bottoms with no foot rim.
    I can't tell from the pictures what's the foot on this jar, slanted or not.
    But that alone does not mean that the piece is old. You have to look at all the indicators because fakes are all over.
    Antique porcelain will always show some signs of usage like scratches, marks etc. Unless it was an Imperil piece or was in collection for a long time. The glaze will also have some kind of flaws, more or less. Thickness of the foot, rounded or not, shaved etc, that also matters.
    Most of the time the unglazed foot will be buff color, kind of orange because of the glaze's iron oxide bleeding.
    For jars, during Ming, necks were glazed, during early Qing unglazed(the whole piece was glazed and then the neck shaved), Late Qing and Republic will have glazed necks again.

    The footrim also depends on the type of vessel, size etc. And there are always exeptions.
    For plates and chargers the Early Qing pieces will have footrims either straight on both sides or oblique on the outside and straight on the inside. Later ones most likely will be straight on both sides.
    Decoration is also important.

    But I don't guarantee that all of the above is on 100% true.
     
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  6. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Also, stay away from too much dirt on the bottom. Most of time that means the piece is made to look old. Too much rust spots( the black dots in the glaze) normaly mean the same.
     
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  7. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

    Thank you, that was really helpful.
     
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