old coins?

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by tomreisn, May 5, 2017.

  1. tomreisn

    tomreisn New Member

    Hi, i found those coins...no idea what they are (or the value...), tried to find some of them with no luck :(
     

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  2. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    The first two Spanish ones look like zinc replicas

    The others may be real. I have not run across that variety of Maria Teresa.
     
  3. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    Top right coin is a Maria Theresa thaler,still being minted and faked today with the 1780 date.
     
  4. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Even the real ones have that date if memory serves; I've run into Maria Theresas before. They were a trade coin all over Eastern Europe and down into Turkey and other parts of the Near East. They minted a kajillion of the real ones right up until WWI. Another coin has Emperor Franz Joseph's name and face on it; it's Austro-Hungarian too. He was still on the throne as an old dude when WWI broke out.

    The first one says Elizabeth and the clothing looks like something from the Restoration era. Beyond that, dunno.
     
  5. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    The 1628 one appears genuine, all I can read is that it was issued by Duke someone, name rubbed, central Europe origin. The last one looks to be an 1878 Austro Hungarian silver 10 groschen.
     
  6. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    The one with the man in the queue and dated 1807 is Austrian too. He's Francis I, emperor (formerly archduke) of Austria who ruled 1792-1835. He was Holy Roman Emperor too for that matter. No clue about the coin itself.
     
  7. tomreisn

    tomreisn New Member

    Oh thanks for all the tips, I found the 1628 coin now -
    Bohemia/Silesia. Duke of Friedland & Sagan. Albrecht v. Wallenstein (1628-1634). AR Groschen 1628. But no clue if its real, I guess some expert would have to look at it :)
     
  8. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    The silbergroschen appears to be real.
     
  9. tomreisn

    tomreisn New Member

    thats which one ?
     
  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    On the Maria Theresia Thaler:

    "In 1753, the empress and the Dutch of Bavaria sign a coinage convention, defining the weight and the content of silver for all the Maria Theresia coins struck in Austria and Bavaria. That was 28 grams, with a 85% of silver purity and measuring 42 mm of diameter. After the death of the Empress in 1780, his son Joseph II allowed the Austrian mint to continue striking the currency with the frozen date of 1780.

    More than thirty million Maria Theresia Thalers were struck and distributed through different European ports towards the East, Egypt and the Red Sea. Its diffusion arrived until China, India and was used in Africa like official currency until World War II. The Maria Theresa Thaler came to cover a very important niche of commerce. Europe needed exotic products like coffee, arabic gum, spices, perfume oils, and Arabia needed the silver for the commerce, the traditional jewellery and the dowries.

    With the rise of the coffee trade in the XVIII century, the Arabic Peninsula had the Maria Theresa Thaler coins available in great amounts. Only ten years after being struck in Vienna, this coins came to the coffee retailers of the port of Mocha in Yemen, who sold their coffee to Austria. The demand of coffee increased in Europe, and the Maria Theresa Thalers were exchanged by coffee growing in the highlands of Yemen.

    In the 1900, more than two hundred million MTT were circulating in Yemen and Ethiopia. Soon, other cities began to struck it like Bombay, London, Vienna, Rome."

    from:
    http://www.arabiafelixjewels.com/th...nd-the-traditional-yemen-silver-jewellry.html
     
  11. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    AR Groschen
     
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