Old Egyptian Gold jewelry. Need help dating and identifying marks. Very interesting!

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by Michael Maestas, May 18, 2020.

  1. Michael Maestas

    Michael Maestas New Member

    0F17323A-0125-4346-80F7-CB3C33287D1C.jpeg 0F17323A-0125-4346-80F7-CB3C33287D1C.jpeg please can anyone make sense of this?
     
  2. Michael Maestas

    Michael Maestas New Member

  3. Michael Maestas

    Michael Maestas New Member

  4. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Welcome, Michael. I can't see your marks well enough in the photo, except to make out the Egyptian national mark for gold, the ibis, in the middle. You have the charts for the karatage marks. Are you not able to figure out which one yours is? The mark for the assay office may or may not be legible; they are often rather blobby.

    Here is a table of date letters:

    EgyptianDates3 redo.jpg
     
    kyratango, KSW and Michael Maestas like this.
  5. Michael Maestas

    Michael Maestas New Member

    So is it 1921-1922?
     
    KSW and Bronwen like this.
  6. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I have no idea. I can't see your marks in that kind of detail. Does your necklace have a Roman letter for the mark on the right? Or is it an Arabic letter? Have you worked out the karatage? This might help you recognize the numbers better than the line drawings you have. Most of the Egyptian gold I have seen has been marked 12, 18 or 21K, but have also seen 15 & 16.

    WikiEgyptphoneKeypad.PNG
     
    kyratango, KSW and Michael Maestas like this.
  7. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Squinting at your marks, think I see 21K, ibis, & date letter of W, so yes, 1921-22. Wow!
     
    kyratango, KSW and Michael Maestas like this.
  8. Michael Maestas

    Michael Maestas New Member

    On the right is a capital W. Clearly
    On the left I think it is one of these sysmbols... 21CD727D-272B-4D40-8DCC-F08F3FDEFC50.jpeg
    The one second to the last one on the far right
     
    KSW likes this.
  9. Michael Maestas

    Michael Maestas New Member

    Yes that is what I see. Thanks for looking. Need a second opinion. I can’t believe my own eyes!
     
    kyratango, KSW and Bronwen like this.
  10. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Traditional belly dancer wear, that is.
     
    KSW, Bronwen and Michael Maestas like this.
  11. Michael Maestas

    Michael Maestas New Member

    Oh ok thanks for the info
     
    KSW and Bronwen like this.
  12. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    A belly dancer who was making good money or had a rich patron. 21K!

    @Michael Maestas If you are planning on selling it, I would advise getting it professionally tested with something more than an acid test. Egyptian marks are sometimes more of an approximation & metal jewellery can be made of earlier pieces of different karatages melted down together. A listing should say both how it is marked & how it tests.
     
    Michael Maestas, kyratango and KSW like this.
  13. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    The top dancers are very wealthy. And also,it's seen as the best being older women.
     
  14. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Just realized that in the photo the necklace is masked. :joyful:

    Michael, is there a story about how you came to acquire this that you are willing to share?
     
  15. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    For anyone who might wonder about this. Since Arabic is written right to left, wouldn't Michael's mark of a 2 & a 1 really be 12, not 21? No. Numerals are written left to right.
     
    Michael Maestas, kyratango and KSW like this.
  16. Michael Maestas

    Michael Maestas New Member

    Thanks for the advise. I appreciate it.
     
    Bronwen likes this.
  17. Michael Maestas

    Michael Maestas New Member

    My girlfriend bought some jewelry from a nice older lady who had a lot of jewelry to get rid of. She drove it over gave her 30 pieces for $40! And that thing was just thrown in there. !!!! Unreal
     
  18. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    BLimey. That was a find.
     
    Bronwen likes this.
  19. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    I didn't notice that until I read your comment and went back to look.

    Welcome to Antiquers, @Michael Maestas !
     
    Bronwen likes this.
  20. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    A) What else was in there?

    B) Did we tell you our appraisal fee yet? :D
     
Draft saved Draft deleted
Similar Threads: Egyptian Gold
Forum Title Date
Antique Discussion Egyptian... something. May 11, 2020
Antique Discussion Bronze Egyptian Statue: Fake or Real? Mar 18, 2020
Antique Discussion Brass Copper and Silver Vase, Egyptian pictorial Feb 6, 2020
Antique Discussion Egyptian piece Jan 19, 2020
Antique Discussion An Egyptian inspired clock and a rug Jan 17, 2020

Share This Page