Featured Old porcelain plates. From what country?

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by quirkygirl, Sep 25, 2020.

  1. quirkygirl

    quirkygirl likes pretty old things

    Hello!
    First , I'll show you why I got them ...
    P1160374(1)(1).jpg

    my first stapled piece! :happy: I only picked up four out of the available 12 or so. Didn't want the one stapled piece to be lonely;) ... plus the ones I left behind had almost all of their gold dots and trim worn off.

    Now to figure out where they were made and how old they might be.

    They are, I guess, salad or dessert plates ... about 8½" (21.5 cm) in diameter.
    P1160369(1)(1).jpg
    close up of design
    P1160370(1)(1).jpg

    Pics of backs showing imperfections in glaze
    P1160371(1)(1).jpg P1160372(1)(1).jpg P1160373(1)(1).jpg

    Thanks for looking and for any info you can provide.

    edited to add: I forgot to mention that the only other example I was able to find with nearly the same "dot design" was from Wales, but it also had beautiful flowers painted where these are very plain.

    I'll see if I can locate the link to the flowered one again. Didn't bookmark it, of course :rolleyes:
     
  2. Rec

    Rec Well-Known Member

    what nice elegant plates. I guess I couldn't hold back and bought all 12, but that's me :)
    if I look at the decor I would date it at the end of the 19th early 20th century, but the foot rim and the baking errors tell me that they are a lot older than I think. maybe 18th century, porcelain paris, or a german or even an english manufacturer.

    :(:p:p
     
    charlie cheswick and quirkygirl like this.
  3. Rec

    Rec Well-Known Member

  4. quirkygirl

    quirkygirl likes pretty old things

    Thanks, Rec! :)
    That's the word (Nantgarw), that came up when I searched last night ... but did I think to jot it down??? Noooooooo :rolleyes: Could I remember it??? Nooooooo :rolleyes: Do I think I could pronounce it???? Absolutely Nooooooooo.

    How do you pronounce that?

    Nice examples you found :) Nice prices, too.

    Using Nantgarw as a search term, I was once again able to find the plate I saw last night (from Pinterest ... copied from a site that times out before it loads on my computer nantgarwandswanseaporcelain.co.uk)
    [​IMG]

    also found this photo
    [​IMG]
    from here https://jacharitabletrust.com/nantgarw-porcelain/

    Wonder why I can't find any examples without the floral center design?
     
    anundverkaufen and bercrystal like this.
  5. quirkygirl

    quirkygirl likes pretty old things

    The others had almost no gold details left on them at all .... but maybe I should go back and pick up one of the two sugar bowls they had ... maybe both.
     
  6. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    HOO! RUN!

    Nantagrw is hen's teeth rare. Grab them. There's a wonderful museum project, who are remaking designs, I'd contact them. http://nantgarwchinaworksmuseum.co.uk/

    "Nant-garr-wu" sort of.
     
  7. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    Maybe all ;) I would
     
    quirkygirl likes this.
  8. quirkygirl

    quirkygirl likes pretty old things

    :hilarious: Thank you! :)

    OK. I'm going. I'll show them tonight (if they're still there for me to get)
     
  9. quirkygirl

    quirkygirl likes pretty old things

    You all aren't suggesting that I should even get the plates where the gold is all but a memory are you??? Sure. they're only 50 cents ea. ... but the condition!?!!
     
    judy likes this.
  10. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    For 50c definitely !!!!
     
    Fid, judy and quirkygirl like this.
  11. Rec

    Rec Well-Known Member

    [/QUOTE] Wonder why I can't find any examples without the floral center design?[/QUOTE]
    ......Having already been lucratively engaged to supply undecorated pieces for subsequent decoration and re-sale by several of the foremost London-based producers, Billingsley and Walker were then approached by John Rose of the Coalport works – who proposed a more complete and effective solution to what he perceived as the threat from an upstart competitor by offering a sufficiently attractive package to secure the exclusive services of the sought-after craftsmen..... source:
    https://scottishantiques.com/Swansea-Nantgarw-porcelain
     
    judy, quirkygirl and charlie cheswick like this.
  12. Rec

    Rec Well-Known Member

    definitefly
     
    quirkygirl likes this.
  13. John Brassey

    John Brassey Well-Known Member

    Nantgarw such a rare factory. I've not found any in thirty plus years.
     
  14. Rec

    Rec Well-Known Member

    I would like to have one for that price
     
    quirkygirl and pearlsnblume like this.
  15. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    You could sell them in 3 lots that way

    So anyone not able to afford the better ones, might still be interested in the worn ones
     
    quirkygirl likes this.
  16. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    FIFTY CENTS? Get down there NOW.
     
  17. LovesVintage

    LovesVintage reader of books and tea leaves

    Oh, those are really pretty! And I love that every time I log on here I learn something different.

    Now I'm dying to know if you snagged the lot, quirkygirl!
     
  18. quirkygirl

    quirkygirl likes pretty old things

    First ... don't scold. I left three ugly ones back at the store. Really, they're terrible. but as I didn't wait for all but the first reply before heading out, I think maybe I'm underestimating just how special these are. The thrift is close by and picking up the last three will be a good excuse to drop by again.

    Here's the quick photos (I'm antsy to go pour out the contents of the three jewelry jars I bought somewhere else ... and I think I see ivory and silver tucked way in the middle)

    The sugar bowls (I think that's what they are) are huge 7" by 4" (18 by 10 cm)
    I know they were larger way back when ... but, wow ... they're like little personal soup tureens.

    P1160375(1).JPG P1160376(1).JPG

    Gotta go dig through some jewels now ..... :happy:
     
  19. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    So when you said sugar bowls you meant soupa sugar bowls :jawdrop:

    Congrats !! :)
     
    judy, quirkygirl and SBSVC like this.
  20. LovesVintage

    LovesVintage reader of books and tea leaves

    I think they are charming!
     
    judy and quirkygirl like this.
Draft saved Draft deleted
Similar Threads: porcelain plates
Forum Title Date
Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain 2 Interesting Porcelain Plates Dec 30, 2023
Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain Doulton Lambeth Porcelain Plates - Artist? Aug 8, 2023
Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain Porcelain plates - maker mystery Jun 14, 2023
Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain Carlsbad porcelain plates - can anyone date these Apr 7, 2023
Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain Antique porcelain plates. Jan 7, 2022

Share This Page