oriental dish?

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by thefenderman, May 22, 2017.

  1. thefenderman

    thefenderman New Member

    Hello all - I'm a novice when it comes to antiques. I was wondering if any experts on this website could tell me the age and origin of the dish in the photo attached to this post (and any other relevant information).
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    thank you :)
     
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  2. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    We will need dimensions of the bowl & photos of the bottom with clear close-up photos of any marks.

    Welcome to our forum!! :happy::happy::happy:
     
  3. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Hello fenderman, and welcome.
    It is Imari style, but as bercrystal said, we will need to see more for a definite origin.
     
  4. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Yup, bottom needed. It is in the style of Japanese Imari but it does look rather recent.
     
  5. thefenderman

    thefenderman New Member

    Hi there - thank you for your replies! The dish is about 25cm across. Here is a photo of the base.

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  6. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I think it is a non-Japanese Imari style. Imari was originally Japanese, but the style was/is copied in other countries, like Britain and the US.
    There are forum members who know more about Western 'Imari', I'm sure they will be along.
     
  7. thefenderman

    thefenderman New Member

    thank you for that info Any Jewelry! :)
     
  8. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Not British. I don't see any reason to doubt it being Japanese, but let's see what the rest think.
     
  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Japanese marks are either in Japanese or in English, with recognizable characters or words. I don't recognize Japanese characters/words in this mark.
    Possibly a stylized Latin script monogram from a country outside Japan?
     
  10. thefenderman

    thefenderman New Member

    Hello - I have since found out the monogram on the bottom of the bowl is a chinese letter for "Authentic, proper"... 正. Any idea on how to age the bowl?
     
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  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Good work! Japanese uses the same characters as Chinese.
    To date something like this, you usually check the maker's name, good pieces are signed. If the character is for 'authentic' that is very difficult of course. It could be Japanese Imari or a Chinese Imari style dish.
    If you want to sell the dish there are a few things to consider that influence the value, and may not justify spending much time on research. There is damage, a hairline crack and the edge is chipped. The decoration is not top quality and it does not have a real maker's mark.
    If you want to keep it for yourself, just enjoy it, the shape and colours are nice.
    For investment, this is the quality you look for in Imari:
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    http://www.gotheborg.com/marks/20thcenturyjapan.shtml#arita
     
    Last edited: May 24, 2017
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  12. thefenderman

    thefenderman New Member

    Wow, those pieces are beautiful :) This dish was bought in 1953 from an antiques dealer in Kensington, so I was wondering if it was a copy of Imari or something a little more unique. A ball park value would be good, but its more about the sentimental value really.
     
  13. khl889

    khl889 Well-Known Member

    Myself, I'd keep open the possibility that the mark was written by someone -- someone not in Japan or China -- who lacked experience writing characters, especially the character 正.
     
  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    That is why I didn't recognize it as a Japanese character/word. It doesn't look Chinese/Japanese.
    And the thickness of the porcelain doesn't look Chinese or Japanese either.
     
    Last edited: Jun 4, 2017
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