Featured Painted Ivory Horses

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by Ratsy Brown, Mar 22, 2020.

  1. Ratsy Brown

    Ratsy Brown Well-Known Member

    My nemesis at a local shop incorrectly informed the staff that these are a pair of painted plastic horses and nothing valuable, so I snapped them up. Lovely quality and condition except for one repaired leg.

    I can't find anything similar online so I thought I'd post here, I assume English/European late 19th century...?

    Approx 7cm height

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  2. Jeff Drum

    Jeff Drum Well-Known Member

    I have to agree with your nemesis that these don't look at all like they are made from ivory. Why do you think they are? Can you show some closeups? I don't see anything that looks like Schreger lines, though that could be the pictures.
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  3. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    I agree.
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  4. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    These are schreger lines that you will see on ivory. If your horses don't have these lines, they are not ivory. post-852-0-58237200-1557698269.jpg
  5. Ratsy Brown

    Ratsy Brown Well-Known Member

    The crosshatching is easy to see in person but I'm having real trouble picking it up on camera, seems to blend in very well with the paint lines.

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  6. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Very difficult to see what these are made of from the photos, why do you think the material may be ivory?
  7. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    Considering it is currently illegal to buy and sell ivory, your nemesis was probably hoping to score these him (her?) self.
  8. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Ok, well if they are ivory, you have a couple of very nice things ..not sure where or when though.
  9. Ratsy Brown

    Ratsy Brown Well-Known Member

    It is currently still legal to trade antique ivory in the UK, though that could change any day-the bill was set to be passed end of 2019
  10. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    Those don't look antique to me, but I'm not an expert in the field.
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  11. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    Illegal? There is a federal ban on interstate sales,but there are only 10 states which ban in state sales.
  12. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    I'm kinda seeing bone structure here....on the inner thigh....

  13. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

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  14. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    I agree that not old, not ivory and China likely.

  15. Sdcookie2

    Sdcookie2 Member

    They are Chinese circa 1920 to 1940, polychrome painted. I have delt in Chinese ivory for 30 years and have had many, unusual to find any paint still on them. Sold as tourists items.
  16. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    TOP L HORSE NECK.jpg I'd have to see better resolution images to convince me, JMHO! They're just not clear enough! BUT, I DO have a question.....TOP image, LEFT horse, in the neck where I've circled in red, is that a signature or just some scratches?? Inquiring minds are curious!
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2020
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  17. Sdcookie2

    Sdcookie2 Member

    If you have handled a few thousand pieces ya kinda know what is what.
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  18. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    but just maybe , from some blurry pics, we all don't......so educate us ! ;)
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  19. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    That’s one hell of an eye you have if so!
  20. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    I spotted it, but just not sure what it is......!
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