Perhaps an early Italian tin glazed plate in blue

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  1. norman warbreck

    norman warbreck Well-Known Member

    IMG_20200120_162424.jpg Reverse Italian majolica plate Blue feathers.jpg Hi all,
    I was hoping that someone would be able to help me with this mark...i am sure its Italian but who and when i have no idea.
    Many thanks for looking
    norman
     
    Last edited: Jan 20, 2020
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  2. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Hi Norman, Could you go back in to your post and Edit.....by clicking on the very TOP image that says "INSERT EVERY IMAGE AS A FULL IMAGE" please? That way we ALL can see them full size without having to click on thumbnails!! Thank you SO MUCH!!!!

    BTW, from the small chips on the plate edges, it looks more like pottery, not tin, and very pretty at that!!!!
     
  3. wiscbirddog

    wiscbirddog Well-Known Member

  4. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    I wonder whether @say_it_slowly has thoughts on the marking's era.
     
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  5. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Tin GLAZED is a type of glaze like majolica done on ceramic.
     
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  6. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    I'm not the pottery expert, but with that bubble glaze on the bottom, is it possible it is Portuguese instead of Italian?
     
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  7. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Thanks @clutteredcloset49 for the correction/education....had no idea!!!
     
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  8. norman warbreck

    norman warbreck Well-Known Member

    Majolica is a term used for this type of ware....but as it travelled to Italy, Netherlands, Europe etc....they used a different type of glaze which they called Tin-glaze so as far as the Europeans were concerned this was a new technique, but in actual fact shards have shown that tin-glaze was used in Turley,middle east as long ago as the 9 / 10 century, also called majolica.
     
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  9. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    My parrot question... What does the sticker read? Is it written in fountain pen or ball point? And, to my eye, the design is more Spanish than Italian or Portuguese.

    Debora
     
  10. norman warbreck

    norman warbreck Well-Known Member

    Real hard to make out...but looks like tfurer...written in old ink. I have done an extensive search but to no avail. I am now more drawn to Spanish as i bought several ancient pieces years ago and should my memory serve me correctly, this was one of them along with two 1640 Italian tin glazed pots.
     
  11. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    Try Manises plates and see what you think.
     
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  12. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    Your little sticker might say Talavera.
     
  13. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    I think Manises a very good suggestion.

    Debora

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    Debora Well-Known Member

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  18. norman warbreck

    norman warbreck Well-Known Member

    Good morning Debora,
    Ha! Ha! Ha! you have it spot on and i must thank you so very much...a great tour through this link.
    The drink is on me for sure...if you are in my area then lunch is of the order...mountains near Davos Switzerland.
    Have a great day
    Norman
     
  19. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

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  20. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    Hey it takes a village:D. I didn't have the time to pull info together so hats off to Debora!

    I have the book Maiolica Olé (it's in English) that helps with identifying some Spanish and Mexican type pieces like this one. Manises pottery has interested me but I've paid more attention to the reflective Hispano-Moresque pieces though I only have one:). The book El reflejo de Manises (not in English) has some lovely examples of those.

    More like this https://www.rm-auctions.com/en/euro...-with-a-bird-valencia-or-manises-spain-17th-c (not mine)
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