Featured Pewter or Aluminum? Age? I have some ideas but need confirmation.

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by Kasperscuriosities, Feb 3, 2015.

  1. Kasperscuriosities

    Kasperscuriosities Two hundred years too late.

    I don't honestly know if this is pewter or aluminum. I am leaning towards aluminum. There is a stamp/hallmark on the bottom of one piece but it is completely illegible. I don't know why I didn't get a picture of it but I didn't.

    I know it is at the very least 60 years old. Only because I was told my mom played in the in the dirt with it when she was a little kid and I am pretty sure it was old then. I have been calling it a coffee service but haven't found one like it. Any suggestions for a different search term? Is there a quick and easy way to tell if it is aluminum or pewter? I would love to find out how old it is.

    My grandparents must not have thought it was worth very much if they let my mom play in the dirt with it. My mom never let me play in the dirt with it. LOL! The Coffee service is about 17 inches tall to the very top the other pieces are maybe 6 and 4 inches tall. I really don't even understand how the thing is suppose to work. I swear this is the last thing I am going to ask about for at least a day maybe two. ;-) LOL! So much stuff, so little time. :) Thanks in advance.

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  2. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    It appears to be pewter and most likely English in origin. Kind of hard to tell age. Maybe as early as 1910 or as late as the 40s. What is the handle made of? That might help to determine age.
     
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  3. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    I think it's a tea service & by the hammering I'd say aluminum .
    I'm not sure you'd want an open flame under a pewter pot??

    It's lovely !
     
  4. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    Certainly pewter, probably pre-WW1. No marks at all?

    I'm not sure you'd want an open flame under a pewter pot??

    Fill a paper bag with water and place it over a flame. The water will boil. It's physics, the paper never gets hot enough to burn. The water conducts away the heat faster than it can build up.

    Aluminium was not used for housewares till after the 1920s or 30's. It was the use of the material in large quantities for flying machines that brought the cost down.

    The handle may well be a phenolic resin of the Bakelite family.
     
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  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Brad......would it help to see the stamp.....?
     
  6. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Well , maybe not ....aluminum..:muted:
     
  7. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    Looks like a chocolate pot but don't quote me on it ;) Great shape for being in the dirt too.:D
     
  8. Kasperscuriosities

    Kasperscuriosities Two hundred years too late.

    The handle? Ummm? Wood? I think if you are asking about that big weird thing at the top that sticks out. That is wood. There is a stamp on one of the smaller pieces but it really doesn't look like anything readable. I will see if my dad can send me a picture of it. I don't think it will help. It looks like the stamp was messed up or damaged at one time and now it impossible to read.
     
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  9. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Planished pewter , without doubt.
     
  10. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    Oh wait, I just noticed the spicket...............like Rosanna danna said,"Never mind":p
     
  11. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    If the handle is wood, it doesn't tell much. Thought it might be ivory or some kind of synthetic. AF probably knows better on the age. Here in the US, something like this would have been made a lot of years unchanged but I don't know in England. It probably doesn't matter much who made this unless it is Liberty & Co. London. I don't know if there are other makers that are much collected. Maybe those from across the pond could inform us otherwise?
     
  12. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    BTW ..... If Liberty, it will probably have TUDRIC on the bottom.
     
  13. Kasperscuriosities

    Kasperscuriosities Two hundred years too late.

    Maybe it's not wood. My dad is taking a picture of the mark I should have it soon.
     
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  14. Kasperscuriosities

    Kasperscuriosities Two hundred years too late.

    The handle is definitely wood. My dad is trying to get a picture of the mark but is having trouble getting the camera to focus. So we will see. I could kick myself for not taking a picture of the stamp. Don't know what I was thinking.
     
  15. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Kasper...any stamp or marking is always worth showing, no matter how it looks.
    Even a partial ....maybe be enough for the experts here to make a swift ID !

    ( or just to have a lively discourse .....I see a crown, well I see a thistle, hey I see a tree......and so on.......) :happy::hilarious::D:inpain::rolleyes::joyful::dead:...
     
  16. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    All the good makers had nice clear stamps. I suspect from the look of the thing it may be Central European.

    It may also be for Turkish coffee, the sort you can stand a spoon up in. Till it dissolves.
     
  17. Kasperscuriosities

    Kasperscuriosities Two hundred years too late.

    Unfortunately, my dad can not get a clear picture of it but I will be back over there in a couple of days and I will take another photo of it.

    I am normally very good about taking pictures of the stamps for research but I was taking a lot of pictures for him that day and by this point I was kind of rushing through the process.

    Thank you all so much for the help. I am really glad to hear it may indeed be pewter. I assumed aluminum because of the hammering but now that I am looking at some of the terms you guys have given me I am leaning more towards pewter. Yay!
     
  18. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Spigot.....if i get catch your drift..:rolleyes:
     
  19. quirkygirl

    quirkygirl likes pretty old things

    Look at the finial at the top of the largest piece ... I see a hole that looks like a whistle ... like a whistling teakettle?
     
  20. Kasperscuriosities

    Kasperscuriosities Two hundred years too late.

    Ok. My dad pulled out a jewelers glass cause this mark is so small he can't get a good pic with his phone. He said that there is what appears to be the number 30 under a lionshead. At least that is what he thinks it is. He said it is much easier to see with the magnification glass. It's probably a centimeter big. The mark that is. I will get a picture of it as soon as I can.
     
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