Featured Please help with identifying circa asian ginger jar

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  1. Write2bfree

    Write2bfree Active Member

    Hello All,

    I was wondering if this is a post 1970s ginger vase. Thank you!

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  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    With that english on the base you might be right !
     
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  3. Write2bfree

    Write2bfree Active Member

    How can you tell the difference between an artist signature and a regular mark?

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  4. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    What do you mean by artist signature and regular mark?
    This is Tongzhi reign mark. It is too sloppy to be from the period. The Imperial marks were drawn by special calligraphers. Those type of ware are with superb quality of the paste and the decoration.
    There are a lot of Republic pieces with Tongzhi marks, some very well made. And then you have Post Republic pieces with this and all other kind of marks, mostly stamped but not drawn by hand.
    The enamels and the painting style are also recent. And then you have the English writings.
    So yeah, probably post 70's.

    By the way, sometimes you can tell that a piece is not from the period by the hairdos of the women. But you have to know the style of hairs during the periods.
    Face features and the way they are depicted also very important.
     
  5. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Good points!

    I think the "For decorative purposes only, not for food use" must date it. Not sure when they started using that warning, but guessing it in the 2nd half of the 20th century.
     
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  6. GaleriaGila

    GaleriaGila Hola, y'all!

    That warning does sound like new/current cover-your-hiney stuff.
    Pretty, though!
     
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  7. Write2bfree

    Write2bfree Active Member

    Sorry for the confussing question. So my question is how can one tell if an artist wrote his/her name on the bottom or if it is just a marking to inform date.


    Also, Thank you! Some awesome info!

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  8. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    How can you tell? You have to know Chinese :)
    There are plenty of pictorial examples with Chinese marks online.
    No need to mention that the mark is the last thing to look at when determining age.
     
  9. Bob Matteson

    Bob Matteson New Member

    If I'm not mistaken they started using the saying "For Decorative purposes only not for food use" in 1973 after they realized there were chemicals from the production in the porcelain that caused people to get sick.
     
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  10. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Hey Bob...that's very interesting.
    BTW....if u look at the bottom of the post before yours you'll see you've answered a thread from over a year ago !!

    Maybe you'd want to join in on threads that are somewhat more recent .

    Just sayin.....
     
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  11. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    1973. It's good info to have, though. I always wondered when they started writing that warning on the bottom. Even though this piece may be long sold or donated, :) it's a helpful note for future pieces where one sees that. Welcome to the site, Bob!
     
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  12. billyd3us

    billyd3us relax buddy, it's all good

    1970's Chinese decorative use only, mass produced...
     
  13. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    with heavy emphasis on MASS !!
     
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