Porcelain Posy Basket Vase - Is this Italian? FRATELLI FANCIULLACCI???

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  1. kaudet

    kaudet Active Member

    Hi All,

    Trying to id this mini Porcelain Posy Basket Vase. Only mark is incised number #7215 on the bottom. Its hand painted scene is textured. Am wondering if it might be Italian Fratelli Fanciullacci or someone else's.

    Any mini posy basket vase september 19 2019 072.JPG september 19 2019 075.JPG september 19 2019 074.JPG help is much appreciated.
    TIA
    Kathy
     
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  2. kaudet

    kaudet Active Member

    Here is the number turned around. posy vase basket number 7215 maybe italy italian.JPG
     
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  3. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Wouldn't a European 7 have a line across it? That "gold" top edge looks very sloppy and with a blank back, I wonder if this was not a commercial decorating job.
     
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  4. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    The painted design looks vaguely Italian-ish, however AFAIK hardly any pottery workshops or factories in Italy (couple of exceptions but they don't make wares like this) use porcelain. Almost all Italian ceramics are pottery.
     
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  5. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    I think it is early 1900s German/Austrian
     
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  6. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

    I have a similar basket with more details and decorations. Similar number on the base. I was never able to find an ID. I found a vase with this type of texture in the clay, I think it was Erphila. However, I never found a basket in this shape made by them, or, anyone else.
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  7. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Erphila wasn't a manufacturer, but an importer.

    Copied from Kovel's:
    A: Erphila is a mark used by Ebeling & Reuss on pottery and porcelain imported from Czechslovakia, Germany, and other European countries after 1920. Ebeling & Reuss was founded in Philadelphia in 1886. They imported vases, pitchers, figurines, dinnerware, and more in styles ranging from Victorian to Art Deco.
     
  8. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

    Thank you for that information. So even if it was an Erphila mark, (so long ago I'm not sure), it really wouldn't answer the question of who made it.
     
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  9. kaudet

    kaudet Active Member

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    kaudet Active Member

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  11. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

    Thank you for those links. I think that Royal Rudolstadt mark looks much older than these two baskets.

    The second link does have a similar look. It's too bad they didn't show the mark.
     
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  12. kaudet

    kaudet Active Member

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  13. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    You definitely can't make an ID based on a similar numbering style! I agree with whoever up top said the painting looks amateurish.
     
  14. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

    The numbers on the right leg look like the same style on both of these baskets. My basket is only 6" long, 5" tall and 2" wide.
     
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  15. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

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  16. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

    There are several companies that people recognize by numbers, especially Japanese. The style of the numbers can help to determine if it's European. Sometimes, it's just a lead to point you in a direction to research.
     
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  17. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Your link doesn't work.

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    I think the design was stenciled on and then hand painted. The dimpled texture would make it difficult to paint. Don't think an amateur would do it as well as this.
    I still think German origin. Not high end, maybe souvenir? or prize from a fair.
    I think pre WWI.
     
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    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

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  20. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

    ebay link on steroids?
     
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