Powder Music Box - Victorian or repro?

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  1. StumptownJoe

    StumptownJoe Active Member

    Trying to find more detail on this. Victorian or 20th century repro? Love the feet!! Can’t see any marks or stamps aside from the US patent number on the bottom...

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  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Not Victorian. The internet says that patent number dates to 1934.

    Debora
     
  3. Sandra

    Sandra Well-Known Member

    The patent number would date your music box to the 1930s.
     
  4. i need help

    i need help Well-Known Member

  5. wiscbirddog

    wiscbirddog Well-Known Member

    The patent number search comes back with: 7-30-35, for a method of producing a decorative surface on metal. Sounds right to me. . .I have my Grandmother's musical powder box that she got towards the end of The Great Depression. Mine however is in much better shape than yours.
     
  6. wiscbirddog

    wiscbirddog Well-Known Member

    Debora, Sandra & INH - you gals are way quicker than I am! :D
     
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  7. StumptownJoe

    StumptownJoe Active Member

    Thanks everyone for the information. I’m new to patent searches. Wiscbirddog congrats on your superior piece!
     
  8. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    The patent number gives you a date that is the oldest the box could be. There is no guarantee it was made then. Pretty sure I have seen similar that are quite new.

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  9. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

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  11. ulilwitch

    ulilwitch Well-Known Member

  12. wiscbirddog

    wiscbirddog Well-Known Member

    The patent was for the way the metal was worked to create a decoration.

    My piece has a medallion with flowers on it and has nothing to do with the patent.

    These powder boxes are made of aluminum, very soft (ding easily) and are prone to corrosion/pitting.
     
  13. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Thank you to those who corrected my patent dating.

    Debora
     
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  14. i need help

    i need help Well-Known Member

    Patent was applied for, August 14, 1934. :)
     
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  15. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Ah....

    Debora
     
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  16. Sandra

    Sandra Well-Known Member

    Ditto from me too. I should have been more clear that StumptownJoe's box could not be Victorian with that patent date.
     
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  17. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    The decoration on the top of the box is an inset porcelain plaque that would have been bought separately from the maker, who may or may not have been the same one who made the plate. Age of plate not really relevant to dating box. As has been stated, the patent has nothing to do with this part of the decoration.
     
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