Pre-Columbian Plate?

Discussion in 'Tribal Art' started by AntiqueBytes, Jul 6, 2020.

  1. AntiqueBytes

    AntiqueBytes Well-Known Member

    I was looking at this for about a month before I bought it. I thought why not take a chance. I searched on "Pre-Columbian Plate" on eBay and there are such things being sold. Any thoughts on if this is one?

    It's 11 inches wide. I did wipe it with a damp towel but it doesn't clean up better as far as I want to go. Whatever glazes used are dulled.
     

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  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It was made fairly recently, but you're right, the design looks pre-Columbian. It is Maya or Maya-inspired.

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  3. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    I believe these are unglazed traditionally, simply burnished - so you may have affected the sheen slightly by using a wet cloth.
     
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  4. AntiqueBytes

    AntiqueBytes Well-Known Member

    It doesn't look any different now then when I got it.
     
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  5. AntiqueBytes

    AntiqueBytes Well-Known Member

    It's nice to know how you came to your conclusion, otherwise, it sounds like just anyone's opinions.
     
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  6. aaroncab

    aaroncab in veritate victoria

    Why do you think it might be pre columbian other than similar plates showing up on Ebay as such?
     
  7. AntiqueBytes

    AntiqueBytes Well-Known Member

    I'm asking the questions around here, lol.
     
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  8. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    You said....."Any thoughts on if this is one?"

    And that's what you're getting !

    If you're asking the questions.....then perhaps you should ask in a more specific way........

    " I'm looking for a Pre-Co expert to validate that this thing I have is old and extremely valuable "......and then troddle off to a Museum , and ask them.
     
  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Maya plates never have foot rims. They usually have three feet.
     
  10. AntiqueBytes

    AntiqueBytes Well-Known Member

    There are also Panama Pedestal Plates.
     
  11. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    From the photograph of the base, specifically the circular patterns in the surface and the precise circular foot, it looks like it was thrown on a wheel. Pre-columbian potters did not use a wheel.
     
  12. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    @blooey, would it hurt to "lightly burnish" it with a paste wax to bring back the sheen??????
     
  13. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I don't know if it ever had a sheen. I think blooey meant the real Maya plates, not necessarily the replicas or Maya-inspired plates.
    If it had been genuine Maya, a wipe with a damp cloth wouldn't have taken away any sheen. Not that I would advise it.:inpain:
    Since it isn't pre-Columbian, AntiqueBytes can do what he likes with it.

    It is a nice souvenir plate, and it probably has some age, maybe 1960s. Vintage pre-Columbian style items have value, but not nearly as much as real pre-Columbian of course. I have seen the prices of these go up over the years.
     
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  14. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Low-fired clay like this would absorb water rapidly and IMO would diminish the burnished decorated areas, albeit slightly.

    @Aquitaine - If the sheen on an object like this were lessened, I wouldn't suggest using any wax, a good hard rub with a dry cloth would be enough to bring it back.
     
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  15. April07

    April07 Well-Known Member

    It's obviously made on a wheel. Nice decorative plate
     
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  16. Octaviano

    Octaviano Member

    Modern piece my friend.

    Cheers.
    Octaviano
     
  17. Modest Muse

    Modest Muse Active Member

    Definitely modern, I'm afraid.

    tks.

    mm
     
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