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Pre-Columbian textiles. Peru.

Discussion in 'Textiles, Needle Arts, Clothing' started by ParisLS, Apr 19, 2025.

  1. ParisLS

    ParisLS Member

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  2. laura9797

    laura9797 Well-Known Member

    wow that is in rough condition. If no one can help here, you can try David Bernstein who has Pre-Columbian textiles. The condition of this one might make it difficult. The textile looks like buildings which would be not be in the Pre-Columbian era but I have been proven wrong before :D https://www.precolumbianart4sale.com/types/Textile/works/
     
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  3. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Lots of squares with an abundance of designs and colours looks like Paracas to me. But I would show it to an expert.

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  4. ParisLS

    ParisLS Member


    Thank you very much. I wrote to Bernstein. I will wait for an answer.
     
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  5. ParisLS

    ParisLS Member


    I looked on the Internet for various textiles from the pre-Columbian era and Paracas in particular, but I did not find textiles that were made up of squares in which the fibers were sewn in different directions vertically and horizontally.
     
  6. Jeff Drum

    Jeff Drum Well-Known Member

    Bought or brought? It would be great if you could find any documentation to establish provenance.
     
  7. ParisLS

    ParisLS Member

    Yes, the provenance is known of course. The item was given to my father in Peru by the founder director of the EQSA company Carlos Gliksman Latowicka in 1981.
     
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  8. ParisLS

    ParisLS Member

    the size of the piece is approximately 55 by 50 cm
     
  9. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    From the French word, provenir, meaning “to come from,” it proves the history of ownership of a specific piece of art. Provenance is the documentation that authenticates a particular art piece.

    You have a good story.... likely a true story... but it is not Provinance !
     
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  10. ParisLS

    ParisLS Member

    Unfortunately, the story of how this item ended up in Carlos's possession is unknown to us.
    Perhaps Bernstein knows something.
     
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  11. ParisLS

    ParisLS Member


    I know what provenance is))
    but that's all we know now
     
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  12. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    maybe Carlos Gliksman Latowicka knows where he got it......if he's still kicking
     
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  13. ParisLS

    ParisLS Member

    He died a long time ago, now his son Alex runs the company
     
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  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    That means it is not Paracas. It would be helpful if you post important information like that in your first post. Remember, you have it in hand, we don't.;)
    He may still have information on how his father acquired a piece like this.
     
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  15. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Given the condition of the textile, it was most likely recovered from an ancient burial site. As Any Jewelry noted, the design looks like other textiles excavated from sites of the Paracas (800-100 BCE) and subsequent Nazca/Nasca (100 BCE - 800 AD) cultures in southern coastal Peru.

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    https://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/30833

    The weaving technique appears to be an example of "discontinuous warp and weft", or "scaffold" weaving. This unique method of weaving was first developed in the Paracas tradition. The technique, known as "ticlla" in the Quechua language, has been analyzed and revived by the weavers of the Center for Traditional Textiles of Cusco (CTTC) community of Pitumarca. It uses a frame loom, rather than a simpler backstrap loom, and the warps can be set up running in different directions.

    These pictures are taken from an article that explains the technique -

    https://andeantextilearts.org/ticlla-a-discontinuous-weaving-technique/
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    Here is some more information on the history of the discovery and dispersal of pre-columbian textiles -

    https://www.bgc.bard.edu/research/articles/354/paracas-and-other-andean-textiles
     
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