Print or painting ?

Discussion in 'Art' started by Gianluca72, Nov 12, 2018.

  1. Gianluca72

    Gianluca72 Well-Known Member

    Hello,

    it's old, i can check it by the back of the frame and by the hook .

    I didn't open it, i'd like to understand if this is a print or a painting .

    The glass is concave, very particular .

    Thanks for your reply

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  2. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    The evidence is in your own photos.

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  3. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Definitely print. I believe it's called "Madonna of the Streets"

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    from Wikipedia:
    The Madonnina, commonly known as the Madonna of the Streets, was a painting created by Roberto Ferruzzi (1854–1934)
     
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  5. Gianluca72

    Gianluca72 Well-Known Member

    thank you very much for your estimated answers.
    I would like to ask you one thing: could this plot be that of a canvas? It seems to me hexagonal with a central point. Sending related photo enlarged.
    How do you recognize the plot of a print from that of a canvas?
    Forgive my ignorance, which is evident.
    Thank you for your time

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  6. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

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  8. Gianluca72

    Gianluca72 Well-Known Member

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    @Gianluca72, when you look closely and see dots, not brushwork.
     
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  10. Gianluca72

    Gianluca72 Well-Known Member

    yes yes but I thought it was the plot of the canvas, but now I understand the difference, thank you
     
  11. Gianluca72

    Gianluca72 Well-Known Member

    @Jivvy
    i set next you the best answer, thanks
     
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  12. Gianluca72

    Gianluca72 Well-Known Member

    @i need help @Jivvy @moreotherstuff

    I apologize for the petulance, only one last question:
    since both the frame and the hook appear rather old, is it possible that this is an "old" print? When do the first prints of this kind go back? Thank you so much
     
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  13. Gianluca72

    Gianluca72 Well-Known Member

    great finding :) thanks
    https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonnina_(Ferruzzi)
     
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  14. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    The dot matrix pattern in some offset printing is like what you see in this print. With the prints I've had, they've tended to be older prints.
     
  15. i need help

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    Does that say Sipram?
     
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  16. Gianluca72

    Gianluca72 Well-Known Member

    yes Sipram or Silram or Sipvam or Silvam
     
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  17. Gianluca72

    Gianluca72 Well-Known Member

    something like 1930 - 1950 ?
     
  18. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    The technology was certainly available then.
     
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  19. Gianluca72

    Gianluca72 Well-Known Member

    Ok so which could be circa a date to attribuite for my cataloging? Thanks
     
  20. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    I’m not able to say a time frame, maybe someone else would know. I have looked for every variation of the name, and have found nothing.
    It might be good to say
    Vintage print of Madonna of the Streets in Classic Convex Frame.
     
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