rare copper red and blue and white Ming mark

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by manny, Jun 30, 2019.

  1. manny

    manny Member

    what people think of this rare plate IMG_4199.JPG IMG_4208.JPG IMG_4208.JPG
     
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  2. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    I think the mark is an honorific and the "plate" was not made in the Ming period.
     
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  3. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    Dripping with charm, though, @manny :)
     
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  4. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    Using the Xuande mark from 1426-35.
     
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  5. manny

    manny Member

    I don't know what you mean using the Xuande mark can you be more specific?
     
  6. manny

    manny Member

    Why do you think that? is it because it's very expensive if it is from the period? even if it's from letter period still it is very expensive. so I guess you think its made last week right? Sure it's not easy to produce a copper red and blue and white together
     
  7. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    A real Xuande plate should be in a museum. If you think this is from the 1400s, please take it to an Asian expert. It sounds like you have decided already and want confirmation, which we aren't qualified to give. As Bakers said, many Chinese marks are honorific or apocryphal, not meant to deceive anyone but to pay tribute.
     
  8. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Perhaps Manny doesn't realize that the various Chinese dynasties are broken down for marking purposes into "reign" periods coinciding with and named for the numerous "emperors" who ruled during each dynasty - Xuande being the emperor during the 9 years of the time frame you gave, Janet.
     
  9. manny

    manny Member

    Well I happen to deal in Chinese art so I know a bit about Chinese history
     
  10. manny

    manny Member

  11. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Forgive me, Manny. Your post "I don't know what you mean using the Xuande mark can you be more specific" obviously led me astray.
     
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  12. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    I totally misinterpreted "What people think of this rare plate." We think it's very pretty.
     
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