Reachs poster real?

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by SeaGoat, Jan 18, 2017.

  1. SeaGoat

    SeaGoat Well-Known Member

    Bought this today at the flea market.

    It seems to have some sort of waxy like coating over it.
    With the loup I'm not seeing any dot matrixing and the ink appears to be raised and not flat to the paper.

    My boss doesnt think it to be right, but idkkkkk

    What do yall think?

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  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    I hope you didn't spend a great deal of money on it.

    Debora
     
  3. SeaGoat

    SeaGoat Well-Known Member

    Oh no, why not?
     
  4. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    I can't speak for your poster specifically but this type of (reproduction) decorative piece was very common in the 1970s.

    Debora
     
  5. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    I second that emotion,Debora.:)
     
  6. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    The lettering does not look professional. It might date to the '60s or '70s (don't know), but it may not be any kind of production piece. It might be some individual's attempt at creating a period piece. Might even be student work. Very strange: the image of the ball players is professional; the rest is not.
     
  7. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    The leading is not professional, agree. Certainly not what one would expect of a period piece, especially during a period when craftsmanship (craftpersonship?) was so high.

    Debora
     
  8. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I think someone made that for themselves. I'd have bought it too just for the image.
     
  9. SeaGoat

    SeaGoat Well-Known Member

    Hm, there's no copyright on it, which it could have been cut from the bottom, but usually it's tucked where it can't be.
    The black ink is raised. You can slightly feel it when your fingers run across the page, but when you do put it next to a repop reachs poster you can see the wompy letters.
    My boss said it looks like someone took marker and filled in the letters, but was getting thrown by the lack of dotting you'd see in a reproduction piece.


    Could it be a early artists draft piece?

    I paid only $10 for it, but have the intention to resell.
    Id like to label and price it correctly.
     
  10. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    I know nothing about baseball apart from the fact that the player is out, but it does look like the sort of cheap woodblock print that would have been issued to hundreds of news vendors who would be selling the guide.

    It's not great art or craftsmanship, just a cheap advertising poster. It would not have had an original copyright notice, it would not have one in 1896 and would not need one, the publishers would have been delighted if anyone copied and distributed it, it is an advertisment after all.
     
  11. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    I think someone took a faded poster and retouched it with magic markers. I concur with a 1970s repro.
     
  12. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Also, even if it were original I imagine the addition of the waxy coating would affect the value of it. It is not in original condition for an old poster.

    I agree with others that it is a later piece, though. If not, somebody committed a crime by waxing it!
     
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  13. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

  14. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    The raised black of the illustration may indicate a photo silkscreen of an old image, the lettering added later.
     
  15. wenna

    wenna Well-Known Member

    Also, they forgot the apostrophe...
     
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  16. all_fakes

    all_fakes Well-Known Member

    I'd suspect it does not date to 1896. The lack of the apostrophe is concerning, and I doubt an official poster would mis-state the name of the publication.
    Comparing to this poster (supposedly an original of the repro in the ebay auction linked above)http://www.zazzle.com/vintage_sports_baseball_reachs_guide_cover_art_poster-228086287099329391
    I see an obvious attempt to imitate the font, and even some of the decorative details (upper corners); but neither is accurately rendered. Compared to the original, both the font and the decorative details are crudely done.
    I'd suspect an amateur attempt to create a vintage-looking poster, rather than an original or a reproduction of an original item.
     
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