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Removing gold paint

Discussion in 'Metalware' started by bluemoon, Mar 3, 2018.

  1. bluemoon

    bluemoon Member

    How would I go on about removing gold spray paint from a ornate brass light fixture? Most paint removers aren't suitable for metal and rubbing with a cloth and nail polish remover is a lot of work and doesn't strip the deep areas. Any ideas what to do with this?
     
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  2. Miscstuff

    Miscstuff Sometimesgetsitright

    Acetone and a paint brush upwind in a wide open space usually works.Watch out for the fumes!! Rubbing alcohol and a paint brush might work.
    Others may have better/safer ideas.
    Cheers
    Stephen
     
  3. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    I agree with Micstuff, Acetone and not the acetone in nail polish remover that has other chemicals in it.
    You can buy high quality Acetone 1 litre 99.8% proof on eBay for around £7 UK
     
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  4. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    BTW. replace the lid quickly, it evaporates in seconds.
     
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  5. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    Have paint removers changed? I remove tons of paint from metal furniture.
    greg
     
  6. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    A pint of household ammonia, half a cup of liquid soap and half a gallon of boiling water. Dump the gilt brass in that and it will come out clean in a few minutes. Stay upwind of the ammonia fumes. This will not remove genuine gilding, only gold paint. It leaves the brass very easy to polish.
     
  7. bluemoon

    bluemoon Member

    I haven't compared many products, but the paint remover I found at a hardware store recently said it wasn't suitable for metal surfaces.
     
  8. bluemoon

    bluemoon Member

    I've read before that's how they used to polish gilt brass items back in the day, but it's not recommended due to the ammonia starting to damage the metal after several dips. I suppose if it's done just once for paint removal, as you suggested, there might not be damage to the metal.
     
  9. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    It is advisable to thoroughly rinse the object.
    Dunking in a carbonate solution such as sodium bicarbonate would cause any remaining ammonia to form an inert carbonate, but this is probably overdoing it.
    It is a pretty standard way of cleaning brass clock movements. I have used it on gilded clock cases that have been touched up or gone over with gold paint.
     
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  10. bluemoon

    bluemoon Member

    I'm not knowledgeable on the subject matter, but recall reading from what I believe was the Victoria and Albert Museum's website that ammonia is not recommended. I don't remember if it was them, or another article that explained how repeatedly ammonia-dipped pieces, despite the first spectacular cleaning results, could become "dull and etched" and how eventully the gilding would be destroyed.

    Here's an article on cleaning ormolu (gilt brass / bronze) and it mentions some of the ammonia damage:
    http://www.vam.ac.uk/content/articles/c/caring-for-your-gold-and-ormolu/
     
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  11. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    Again you have sought out and found the most nonsensical sources and repeated them for others to see as if they were fact. Ammonia has zero effect on gold.
     
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  12. bluemoon

    bluemoon Member

    What about brass?
     
  13. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    I always cleaned gilt frames and lamps with alcohol. Most dirt and stuff is from smoking and coal furnaces. I use the alcohol on mirrors also. Never seemed to bother them.
    greg
     
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  14. bluemoon

    bluemoon Member

    I tried rubbing alcohol and it didn't affect the gold paint.
     
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