Sadler teapot

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by JP Canada, May 12, 2021.

  1. JP Canada

    JP Canada Member

    Help please identifying the year of this teapot. Hand signed, Sadler, I believe.

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  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

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    Help us, to help you !!!

    Post pics in FULL IMAGE...
    Give us the size in inches
    Tell us anything you already know about the item

    U have it in your hand....we only have small photo's....
    so the more help u can be....the better help we can be !! ;)..:):):)
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  3. JP Canada

    JP Canada Member

    83C76E7D-FFC8-44EB-AC92-AE823C807213.jpeg 83C76E7D-FFC8-44EB-AC92-AE823C807213.jpeg Okay! Show me the way Jedi masters! All the pieces that I am posting are part of a collection from my grandfather. He was an avid stamp and coin collector and also ran an antiques store. Many of the items I’m posting have been boxed away for years since his passing. This Sadler teapot is hand painted with gold trim- I am not sure of the size but here it is on display with others as a reference. 83C76E7D-FFC8-44EB-AC92-AE823C807213.jpeg
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  4. JP Canada

    JP Canada Member

    Holy crap. I suck at this. Bare with me people. I swear I’ll get the hang of it.
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  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    do u have a foot long ruler.....throw it in the photo's ....that helps !;)..:happy::happy:
  6. JP Canada

    JP Canada Member

    I’ll have to get my dad to - that one is in his kitchen!!
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  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    always harder when u don't have the item in hand...
    just sayin..
  8. SBSVC

    SBSVC Well-Known Member

    Hi, JP, and welcome! You've been showing a lot of LOVELY things here!

    I hope you're not too overwhelmed that everybody's been hitting you with posting advice. (I'm only going to add to it!)

    Iphone photos often post sideways here, for some unknown reason. If yours do, just use the edit button immediately after uploading your picture, and rotate it back the way it should be.

    I've rotated your photo, and I've also cropped it a bit to get rid of the non-relevant "excess" around the edges.

    photo to rotate.jpeg

    I always crop the photos I post here, since it allows for the maximum-size picture of the actual item I'm showing.

    Just another "something" to add to all the advice people are throwing at you...

    Yes, there IS a learning curve, but honestly, before you know it, it all comes so naturally that you won't even think about it!

    Please keep posting - everybody here loves to look at cool stuff & help when & where they can.
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  9. JP Canada

    JP Canada Member

    Thank you so much for your help and kind words. And to everyone in this group for the advice so far and their patience. I know it comes from a place of making sure the forums works as intended so I am open to all feedback.
    I will admit it has been very overwhelming to work through my grandfathers collections. The intention was to sell much of it; however it turns out my dad and I have the “collect everything gene” as well. It took us 3 years to get through his stamps, which was honestly a harder study than my PhD. In hindsight, stamps and coins are easy now thanks to the Scott catalogues. Porcelain and China feel like a giant amorphous black hole in comparison. I will keep posting pieces and appreciate all the guidance so far. Thanks everyone.
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  10. JP Canada

    JP Canada Member

    I have two questions:
    1) Is it helpful or unhelpful I post multiple items in one thread?
    2) how do I rotate/crop iPhone images after I have added them to the thread?
    Thank you again!
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  11. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    If the items are related - all teapots, or all jewelry, or like that - putting them into a single thread is fine.

    I don't think the date of the teapot is particularly important. Condition is more important, and some idea of capacity is useful.

    That's a very attractive teapot.
    Last edited: May 12, 2021
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  12. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    One or two items per thread , helps keep things moving in a flow......more that that and who answers which item when, saying what....can get pretty hard to follow..
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  13. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Sadler, if it is, is a brown betty with decoration. Late 19th up to, oh, 1920s ish.

    That lustre ware vase and jug are nice, and a bit older, late19th/early 20th. Vase is a good shape.

    Other teapots look 30s and 50s, the pierced plate is 60s.
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  14. JP Canada

    JP Canada Member

    F7D3C97D-5F5E-474D-A33E-1ECC6692E11C.jpeg Thanks so much! I’ll look into the teapots a bit more and send some better pictures. Here are some better pictures of the lister ware jug and vase. The tall one is about 10” and the jug is 7.5”. They have no marks on the bottom. Any ideas where they originated? I’m sorry about the orientation of the picture. I’m still learning D591C8C5-EC98-43E0-89CF-AEF1D9D2D7E8.jpeg
  15. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Could you show the bottoms of those please? Even unmarked it's a big clue.
  16. Iowa Jayhawk

    Iowa Jayhawk Well-Known Member

    Handles have a Czech vibe to me.
  17. SBSVC

    SBSVC Well-Known Member

    JP, I have a similar (albeit a bit smaller) little jug/pitcher, with a Japanese mark on the bottom:

    japan luster pitcher.JPG japan luster pitcher mark.JPG

    SEIEI & CO
    The SEIEI & CO were in business before WWII and seems to have shut down in 1962
    738. Mark: Bird in Circle, "Hand painted, Made in Japan". "Lusterware". Around 1930.
    939. Mark: Bird in Circle, "Hand painted, Made in Japan". "Lustre ware". Around 1930.
    from: Japanese Porcelain Marks (
  18. Iowa Jayhawk

    Iowa Jayhawk Well-Known Member

    Similar handle on this one IMG_8525.jpg IMG_8526.jpg
  19. Iowa Jayhawk

    Iowa Jayhawk Well-Known Member

    But seeing that other small pitcher leads me to the Japan idea.
  20. SBSVC

    SBSVC Well-Known Member

    @Iowa Jayhawk

    Wellllll.... I think perhaps it can go either way. I've seen Czech, Japanese and even Austrian lusterware items that are nearly identical to each other.

    Here's an example:

    These 2 cat-handled pitcher/creamers are actually the same size (despite my mediocre photography skills, which make the one on the right look larger.)
    They are obviously decorated very differently.
    luster creamers.JPG

    Even the shapes of the bases are very similar. (If you hold them, base to base, they actually "match")
    luster creamer marks.JPG

    The marks, however, show different countries:
    luster japan mark.JPG luster Czech mark.JPG

    If they didn't have those marks on the bottom, how would you tell where they were made?
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