Saffordshire Toby jug

Hi I have this Toby jug since last week think its old maybe pre Victorian ,

It has it little cap what fits in the mouth of the Jug I believe its unusual to find this has its often missing so I'm worried it might be a repro has ceramics are not my thing ,

What makes me think its a old original one is the colour of cobate blue ,

And his pants being a sort of strange yellow ,

 

It Seems very bright in the pictures but there a bit more dull then shown in the pictures ,Also the graze seems very patchy,

And it only cost me £17.00 from a local auctioneers,

What has add to my worry it might be a repro ,

 

Hi Charlie,welcome aboard. We need pictures of the bottom ,and maybe one of the top with and without hat in.

 

Ok will sort it out later the bottom does look clean but there a few scuffed and the top has a old chip and the hat has a old crack what seems to had a old repair

And if you click on the thumbnail picture I already taken a picture of the top with the hat in ,

Thank you for your Reply

 

Welcome to the forums!

I think I found a toby jug like yours. Nowwww I'm certainly not sure because your pics are nearly impossible for seeing details that are so necessary for IDing. The window light behind the jug makes the jug a blur. The light source needs to be in front of the jug. Really the only reason I think the one I found is identical to yours is by the smile showing his front teeth giving him a bucktooth look. The one I found is on an auction site. The top of the page says Antique Staffordshire. The description of the actual jug(s) says:

"Toby Jugs Lot 1104

"Sheppards Auction House
www.sheppards.ie
Date 28.6.16

"Catalogue Description.
TWO TOBY JUGS S. Smith Longton, 1851 23 and 19 cm. high
Estimate: 50-80 EUR"

The pic is of 2 toby jugs. Both have their legs crossed, which I believe the legs of yours are crossed also? One is large and the othe smaller. The larger one on the left looks like yours - 2nd pic down.

http://www.antiquetobyjugs.com/antique-toby-jugs/auction/toby-jugs-page-21.html

The same ones on another site:
https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/...0022/lot-b0607327-04b8-411f-9adf-a62800af88d9

aaannddd another in different colors:
http://www.oldeworlde.co.uk/ourshop...taffordshire-Toby-Jug-c1880.html#.V_2qQnQ8KhA

--- Susan

I found another that is said to have Sampson Smith 1851 on the bottom calling it "Cross-legged Squire." This one is on Pinterest. I went to the site where it is suppose to be but not there. The site has toby jug info. One of its pages has names of collectable toby jugs. One of the names is "Cross-legged Squire." As many can't get into Pinterest, I am including the pic and info
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/35817759508450728/

Site pinterest got the pic:
http://www.antiquetobyjugs.com/index.html
Collectable toby jug names:
http://www.antiquetobyjugs.com/antique-toby-jugs/article/toby-jug-a-z-list.html



"Marked Sampson & Smith 1851 in his base, this Cross-legged Squire toby is well coloured and was produced in circa 1860-70 period. Height 8.5 inches with his original detachable hat."

 

Thank you very much Susan it seems you found it,

Great detective work,

So £17.00 I paid for it seems a reasonable price ,

 

Susan Just put crossed legged Squre Toby jug into search engine and found this one sold for £125.00 plus £10.00

It has no hat but mine has old repaired crack ,





http://www.antiques-atlas.com/antique/19th_century_staffordshire_cross_legged_toby_jug/as541a007

 

You're welcome. As I don't sell, I can't help you on a selling price. Hopefully someone well come along with help for you on value; however, without clearer pics that will be difficult to impossible. Good pics of the details and a pic of the bottom encourage viewers to help. Note the differences in the quality of your pics and the ones we found online.

BTW, "1851" found around the base of these doesn't mean that was when this was made. That date has something to do with the company history. I've now seen some of these that the sellers are dating to the late Victorian period. According to this very good pottery site on Sampson Smith's marks, the 1851 mark dates from 1851 to 1890.
http://www.thepotteries.org/mark/s/smith_sam.htm

--- Susan

 

It doesn't have any marks on it Susan but its a dead ringer for the one on the right in your first post,

And not interested in a selling price just wanted to know if people think I did well getting it for £17.00

 

If you like it.....& had fun buying it....& think it's nice enough & old enough to show it off here.......then sure .....you did very well !!!!