Sepia PHOTO...Who is this historical figure?

Discussion in 'Ephemera and Photographs' started by Studio Antiques, Jul 10, 2018.

  1. Studio Antiques

    Studio Antiques Well-Known Member

    We think this may be an original sepia photograph. It’s small; 1-1/2” tall. The back has some pencil notes.

    Is it a chubby George Washington, or another historical figure?

    As always, TIA for your help!

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  2. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    If it's a photograph, I think it's a photograph of a photograph of a painting at best.

    Perhaps we can investigate the subject by getting a better look at the writing on back. The bend in the paper is making it difficult to decipher. Can you flatten it? Maybe get a closer look of the name at the top?
     
  3. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Ans for what it's worth, I don't see Washington in that face anywhere.
     
  4. Studio Antiques

    Studio Antiques Well-Known Member

    @Bakersgma Thank you! I’m probably looking at the wig and seeing a Washington! LOL I’ll get some better shots of the writing on the back tomorrow. Have a nice night! Sally:)
     
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  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I agree, it is not George Washington.
     
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  6. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Yet his face does look familiar to me. Will think about this for a while.. I'm still waking up this morning.
     
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  7. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    It looks rather like Prinny to me.
     
  8. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    After enlarging the writing on the back, I think the first part looks like Lieut., an abbreviation for Lieutenant. So the following two words may give the identity. Unless the picture was a gift to a lieutenant. ....
     
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  9. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Could be Louis XVI
     
  10. Studio Antiques

    Studio Antiques Well-Known Member

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    Sorry for being AWOL . I’m going to try and take a better image of the writing from home tonight (where it is) and will post later
     
  11. Studio Antiques

    Studio Antiques Well-Known Member

    Print appears to be an animated bird. I’m guessing I’m wrong. Who is Prinny?
     
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  12. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Prinny was George IV. He picked up the moniker as Prince of Wales.

    Prinny, who had (shall we say) a weight problem, was the great patron of Beau Brummel. They fell out, and when Brummel was on the slippery slope, due to debt, his career pretty much came to an end when he met Prinny and Lord Alvanley at a masquerade ball at a club called Witiers. Prinny refused to acknowledge Brummel, so Brummel looked at Alvanley and famously asked, "Who's your fat friend?" That was pretty much it for Brummel.
     
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  13. i need help

    i need help Fka-Huntingtreasure

    The last name looks something like Malr??? Or Mahr???
     
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  14. Studio Antiques

    Studio Antiques Well-Known Member

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  15. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Those wigs were out of fashion in the days of George IV. They were worn during his father's time, but George III looked different. As did George IV, by the way.
     
  16. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    I still think Louis XVI is a good bet.

    I think the inscription on the back is to-and-from.
     
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  17. Studio Antiques

    Studio Antiques Well-Known Member

    Then I'm going with Louis XVI! Thanks for your help!
     
  18. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    He does resemble him, except... every picture I can find of Louis XVI depicts him with full, or even thick, lips. The man in the picture here appears to have much thinner lips. Unless the staining and fading of the image is hiding something.
     
  19. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    The first word looks like Lieut? Short for Lieutenant, I presume. Below that is 'from'.
    I think he is an American gentleman.
     
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  20. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Well-Known Member

    He looks really familiar, but I haven't had any luck finding this exact portrait.
     
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