Signed antique photograph in frame. Need help with identifying person and signature

Discussion in 'Ephemera and Photographs' started by benbenny007, Nov 2, 2018.

  1. benbenny007

    benbenny007 I buy rubbish, and sell antiques

    I have this picture of a gentleman which is signed. It's nicely framed and matted which makes me think that it maybe could be a known person? I really have difficulties reading the signature. Any ideas?

    Any info/input is welcome

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  2. SBSVC

    SBSVC Well-Known Member

    The darker writing seems to say GRAY BUCHANAN.

    The "upper" light colored writing is perhaps VALENTINE GIBBS.
  3. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

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  4. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Best I can do with the lighter writing.....not totally sure what it says, but it might help others.....?alentine Bibbers???.....not a clue on the bottom line...... @anundverkaufen ???? got any ideas???

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  5. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    I'd think the line under Valenine Bibbs was his location?

    Beautifully done photo!
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  6. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Bibbs' location was : 1 Prince Avenue, Muswell Hill, N 10, London
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  7. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    His printing in the painting isn't very legible, but that's what it looks like to me... "Muswell Hil _________d".
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  8. Batman_2000

    Batman_2000 Well-Known Member

  9. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    There was a Sir Kenneth Gray Buchanan, but I haven't found a photo of him to compare. Gray-Buchanan seems to be a notable name in the UK so perhaps there are several possibilities?
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  10. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    I found one really mediocre newspaper photo of sir Kenneth-- wasn't 100% clear, due to condition issues, but I don't think this is him.
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  11. Batman_2000

    Batman_2000 Well-Known Member

    From Ancestry: Bertram Valentine Bibbs was born in 1880 (Scotland) and died 1966 (Herefordshire). In 1939 he lived in Hornsey, Middlesex (Ward of Muswell Hill) and his occupation on the census is photographer (portrait). He seems to have had a studio in Muswell Hill and from the information I can glean he moved to that area in the 1920s.

    Regarding the name, could there be a first initial before the word Gray? Possibly an 'I'?
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  12. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Doesn't look like a military man (as was Kenneth Gray Buchanan.) But, where there's one Gray Buchanan, there must be more.

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  13. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    How very interesting. it's feasible that the electoral rolls at the time might shed some light: it's Haringey Council now.

    Let me just throw in that Muswell Hill had then, and still does, a sizeable Jewish population. I'm not convinced that says Grey Buchanan. (It ought to be e, not a, properly. ) I'm not sure what it does say, though. Face it very annoyingly familiar. I'd be looking at local politicians of the time.
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