Silver with Turquoise?

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by Estaterestate, Feb 3, 2020.

  1. Estaterestate

    Estaterestate Well-Known Member

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    EA319F4F-56EA-43E5-8F47-86A0F6C70697.jpeg 3D3FD2C8-0C49-4B50-A100-325392968DB7.jpeg 349E5410-D0B3-436F-8F66-A5D7B0ABD3FE.jpeg Bracelet has no markings, but turquoise looks real. Would it be in a base metal bracelet?
     
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  2. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    It's glass, but dumber things have happened.
     
  3. Estaterestate

    Estaterestate Well-Known Member

    How can u tell?
     
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  4. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I've seen a lot of both the real thing and glass "stone". That's not turquoise in any way shape or form.
     
  5. stracci

    stracci Well-Known Member

    Not turquoise, not silver.
    Glass and mystery metal.
    When you have seen lots and lots of turquoise,
    it is easy to tell real from fake.
    This looks like 1960s costume jewelry. Possibly made in India or Pakistan, based on that clasp.
     
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  6. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    made to resemble Navajo, I'd think ..
     
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  7. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Sort of. A ton of similar items were made in India from the 80s onward, as far as I know.
     
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  8. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Yup, glass. I've had stuff with that blackening, can't for the life of me remember where it's from.
     
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  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I'm with the others, no turquoise and no silver. The pin clasp is traditional in many parts of the world.
    Traditional North African style, probably first bought in Egypt, but could have been made in France for the North African tourist trade.
    I love this traditional style, but prefer the real deal.
    It is not trying to be anything other than North African.;)
     
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  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    One of mine, antique silver, like yours partly blackened, set with rubies. It has the same triangular 'pyramids' and similar wire decorations:

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    The 'pyramids' are not inspired by actual pyramids, which have a square base, it is just a name.
    This style shows influences from the many peoples of North Africa, Berber, Arab, European. It is called 'Citedine' or city style.
     
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  11. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    OK then........ could be confused for Navajo !!! ........ better ? :happy::happy:
     
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  12. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Uhmmmm.....
    Ok, for you, yes.:happy: But only for you, mind.;)
     
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  13. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Actually, the two connect through the Spanish. The North Africans owned most of Spain for centuries, and the two cultures cross-pollenated. The Spanish colonials took the designs to the New World where the southwestern tribes liked them and used them too. Still do. So yes, possibly mistaken for Native American.
     
  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    This style never traveled to Spain, it is not seen in Spanish jewellery of any period.
    This is simply because the Citedine style dates from long after the Moorish occupation of Spain (partial).
    Besides, it is seen more in Tunisia and Algeria, and some in Libya and Egypt. Not so much in Morocco, where the Moors started their conquest of Spain from.
    So, sorry, no link to Spanish colonials in the New World.

    There is a 20th century Mexican jewellery designer who was inspired by ethnic jewellery, including the Citedine style. She never influenced NA jewellery makers though.
    I keep forgetting her name, but I mentioned her before in another thread. Not that it has anything to do with Spanish colonial jewellery styles in the New World....;)
     
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  15. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Is this a mark or a dent? Looks like there's one on each half:

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  16. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Do you mean those things that look like eye shapes?
     
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  17. stracci

    stracci Well-Known Member

    Looks like lumpy soldering.
    This bracelet was made quick and cheap for tourists. Maybe Moroccan?
     
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  18. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Pretty generic North African Citedine style, but some souvenir costume jewellery in the region is made in France.
     
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  19. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Yes, those. Location is typical of middle eastern marks & that looks like a dot. Would just like a clearer look.
     
  20. 12th Woman

    12th Woman New Member

    Yes, I saw similar ones in the 70's in Turkey
     
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