Featured Silverplate filigree Russian (?) tea glass holders

Discussion in 'Silver' started by Lucille.b, Feb 25, 2019.

  1. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    I assume these are vintage Russian (?) tea glass holders, silverplate, have a few questions.

    Not sure how to interpret the writing on the base of the holder. Each is marked on the base as shown (last 2 pics). Is that "U" letter Russian?

    It will not be me doing it, but can these ever be polished? No idea how you would get into that filigree section.

    One glass has a chip on the rim, the other glasses have perfect rims, but a few scuffs on the outside near the base. The holders are actually in great shape other than the severe tarnish and oxidation. They certainly look nice with the glasses, but now I am in a bit of a quandary, due to the damage on the glass, should I just sell the holders separately? Would certainly make the set a lot lighter to ship.

    The glasses are an exact match in size with the holders, but I'm thinking they might not be all that high end, maybe not even that old. Thoughts?

    aglass.jpg aglass2.jpg aglass2b.jpg aglass3.jpg aglass5.jpg aglass6.jpg aglass6b.jpg aglass7.jpg aglass8.jpg aaaa.jpg
     
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  2. April07

    April07 Well-Known Member

    The writing on the base is Ц. 7.50 (price 7.50 rubles).
    The glasses are typical Soviet crystal, nearly every family had those.
     
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  3. April07

    April07 Well-Known Member

    i dont think they are silver plated must be german silver
    like this [​IMG]
    or this
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  4. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Thanks, April07.

    That certainly looks like them. Where did you find those links if I can ask?

    Trying to get an estimate of value, if worth listing or not. German silver isn't really silver if I'm correct.

    So the price would be stamped into the base? (Just wanted to confirm. Thanks.)

    Additional thoughts welcome.
     
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  5. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    German silver is an alloy. Also known as nickel silver.
     
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  6. April07

    April07 Well-Known Member

    In the Soviet Union the price of most of the products was stamped or printed on them (regulated economy :) )
    German silver is not silver.
    I am not sure the links will be very helpful because they are from Russia and Ukraine. Pricewise not expensive because it was a mass production
    https://besplatka.ua/obyavlenie/podstakanniki-iz-sssr-melhior--130ed6
    $9
    http://artandbooks.ru/products/antikvariat/product-podstakannik-skan-filigran
    $22 (I think that's overpriced)
    https://youla.ru/moskva/dom-dacha/p...ghran-mielkhior-sssr-5ae5c3e102a55875241b7c3c
    $10
     
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  7. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    They are melchior. Lower than nickel silver. The mix includes zinc which will never shine again.
     
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  8. April07

    April07 Well-Known Member

    I thought that it is German silver that includes copper, nickel, and zinc. Could you please specify the difference.
     
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  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Nice tea glass holders, Lucille. I love filigree.:)
    It can be confusing. In Europe Melchior used to be a cover all term for several base alloys which include German silver. The name was first coined in Italy, but the alloys are of French origin.
    Melchior is mostly used in Russia, where it is a copper alloy with some nickel, manganese and iron.
    German silver (alpaca, nickel silver) is copper, zinc and nickel. The copper percentage is not as high as in Melchior.
     
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  10. pearlsnblume

    pearlsnblume Well-Known Member

    My grandparents had similar ones, but the glasses were not as fancy if I recall right. I remember them sipping hot tea with them and having a sugar cube between their teeth to melt a bit when they drank.
    That doesn't help you at all, I know, but it reminded me of an old memory.
     
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  11. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Thank you @April07 for posting the links. :happy:

    Also appreciate the additional eyes on this. Was helpful.

    Thanks.
     
  12. Adrienne McClary

    Adrienne McClary New Member

    I beg to differ Melchior will indeed shine up. I used bar keepers friend and a toothbrush and mine are absolutely beautiful.
     
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