Small enamel picture

Discussion in 'Art' started by blooey, Oct 8, 2019.

  1. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Did a bit of horse trading today and one of the things I ended up with was this little (4" square) cloisonne mat enamel picture. It has a nothing frame so I didn't bother taking a picture of it - however some Spanish writing on the reverse backing paper looks like it was some kind of gift?

    I don't think the picture is Spanish BTW!

    Anyone able to read?

    enamel.jpg

    e_reverse.jpg
     
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  2. Miscstuff

    Miscstuff Australia

    According to google translate
    tan mucho ustedes debo que nunca puedo cumplirla
    tan mucho ustedes quiero se como puedo decirlo
    so much you must I can never fulfill it
    so much you want to know how I can say it
    Cheers
    Stephen
     
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  3. patd8643

    patd8643 Well-Known Member

    Looks Judaic...
     
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  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    IS Jewish......Rabbi & Father talking to his son ! with ancestors looking on....
     
  5. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    No kiddin!

    I'm sure it is just that.
     
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  6. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I thought some kind of bar mitzvah gift?
     
  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    At first glance......but there's no Tallit...no scrolls....some part of the ceremonial whatsits would have to be shown....to set the scene...
    BUT....I guess.....it was a gift of some sort....
     
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  8. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Is it possible that the over complicated bit circled below is an artist's monogram?
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  9. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    no..........it's dad's hand on his sons shoulder..........:yawn::p:p
     
  10. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Oh, i think you're right! :p:bag:
     
  11. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    :happy::beaver:...it was worth the ask...!!! :hilarious::hilarious:

    U know...Spain at one time had a big Jewish population.....
    that Rabbi's hat....to me that's an older European style.......
    Just sayin.........;):hungry:
     
  12. i need help

    i need help Well-Known Member

    A2FDA451-68B8-472F-B58F-FD9073D261D3.jpeg You all know by now about my Hallucinations, but it LOOKS like another face? :confused:
    Oh I now see Komo said ancestors looking on. :hilarious:
     
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2019 at 1:19 AM
  13. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    yes...like I said...an ancestor...peeking over the Rabbi's shoulder !!
     
  14. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    you are not seeing things..........umm,,,,here at least !! :hilarious::hilarious::eek::eek::eek:
     
  15. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    I think it is European, the flat mat enamel style shows up in jewellery made by Bunge, Schibensky and contemporaries in the 50's ...always been a fan of that stuff.
     
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  16. i need help

    i need help Well-Known Member

    What is the base metal, Blooey?
     
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  17. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Probably copper, reverse is counter-enamelled so can't see the back ..the area you circled in blue is transparent-ish and what you're seeing is through the enamel to the base - and that looks like copper.
     
  18. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Roughly:

    I owe you so much that I can never repay you.
    I love you so much that I can never say it.

    Given construction, might be a quote.

    Is dedication written in fountain pen and not ball point? If so, that will help date your piece.

    Debora
     
  19. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    I agree, Debora, more likely a quote than a dedication. First , "ustedes" is the plural for "you" and second, it is also the "formal" version which you would not use to speak to a person you "love" in the romantic or familial sense.
     
  20. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Rather than a dedication or gift inscription, might it be a lengthy title for the piece? It seems consistent with the subject matter. Have you tried googling the whole phrase?
     
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