Featured Stained Glass and Mahogany

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by Ghopper1924, Oct 4, 2017.

  1. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

    Hey all:

    The story that goes with this lamp is that the base is solid mahogany and was made ca. 1890-1910, while the shade was made a bit later, ca. 1920s to go with it, replacing an earlier fabric shade. The shade is 25" wide, 12" tall, and the whole thing with the base is 80" tall, a little over 6' U.S. The shade comes apart into 2 pieces, with the seam covered by a band of stamped tin which has a good, aged patina. The sockets are replacement.

    Insurance replacement $800 to $1k. Does all of this make sense ?

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  2. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

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    "I collect antiques because they're beautiful"
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    He was in a LOT of TV and movies and I recall him well most for Highway Patrol.
    A WWII Army veteran who worked with Glenn Miller and was lucky to not be aboard that aircraft when GM, the aircrew and others were lost. :(
     
  3. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    yes it makes sense.......the base is nice and those glass shades ....when well done can be worth a lot of money..........
     
  4. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    There's something about the top part of the shade that says much younger than 1920's to me. Did that date come from family history or something else, GHopper?
     
  5. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

    Hi Bakersgma:

    I thought the shade might be a late 20th century effort myself, since there was a big revival of interest in Tiffany then. I guess its still possible. It was purchased at a small-town auction and the auctioneer claimed personal knowledge of the family that owned the lamp and the ancestor that made the lamp "a looooong time ago." The year of manufacture was not given, if anyone still remembered it. The auctioneer could have been lying, although I think of him as being basically reliable. I've been going to his auctions for about 10 years now.

    The shade comes apart into 2 sections, and a very aged/patinated stamped tin band acts as an astragal or batten to cover up the joint. This is not something I remember seeing in late 20th century revival shades. Also, the colors seem a bit less "bright" than later shades, which to me says earlier rather than later.

    Nevertheless, the worst case says that the auctioneer was not telling the truth and this is a recent shade. Keeping in mind what Komokwa said about well-done shades, would the replacement value still be $800-$1K?
     
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  6. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

    Oh, and thanks for the info re: Broderick Crawford, King. I think that quote says it all!!
     
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  7. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    First, I have no idea on value, although it is an attractive lamp.

    Second, I'm not suggesting that the auctioneer "lied" but was probably passing on what he was told by the consignor.

    It may be that the upper part was added to replace a missing cap and that's what is throwing off my estimate of when the "whole" was made.
     
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  8. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Only my opinion and I'm not always correct.

    Old lamps like this would most likely have had metal stands. The wood screams 1980s and later.

    The colors used in the shade do not say 1920s to me. Again, I am seeing 1980s.
     
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  9. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Agree. I don't see old.

    Debora
     
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  10. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

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  11. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    That shade,while pretty,doesnt have the fluidity of older stained glass to me.I have never heard of a shade that "comes apart",has anyone else ?
     
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  12. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    I do think the base old. These old wood lamps had fabric shades and today don't have much value. (Had a nicer one sit in our thrift for $40.00 ... then $20.00 for nearly 6 mo. before selling). The shade is an older one or made from old glass based on the textured back glass used. Shade is not of the highest quality but still nice. Value of such a shade would be under $500.00 most places. Consequently, I don't see an overall value approaching $800.00.
     
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  13. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    the 8 is for insurance replacement.......it's always over valued......so I don't see it being that out of line.
    IMHO...
     
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  14. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

    Well done, Brad. This answer seems well informed. If I can insure the base and shade at a replacement value of even $500-$600 then it's all good.

    Oh, and thanks Komokwa. We must have hit "post" at almost the same second. :)
     
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