Steel(?) Table Knife - Joseph Rodgers

Discussion in 'Metalware' started by StumptownJoe, Nov 14, 2019.

  1. StumptownJoe

    StumptownJoe Member

    I came across this well-worn piece and I just love it. I'd love any info beyond what I've learned...

    I know that it is pre-1901, as it says "Cutlers to HER Majesty" - A lot of these Rodgers pieces say HIS or THEIR majesty.

    I believe it is steel, but would love a more precise date so that I can research the type and origin if the steel.

    I honestly can't tell what the handle is made of - seems to porous to be horn, but there's no grain of any kind to indicate wood...

    Thanks for any education you might have!
    Joe



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  2. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    The blade is most likely carbon steel.
    The handle is either silver plate or sterling. Polish it. You may find the mark.

    I saw your comment about polishing on another thread.
    Can you imagine what your mother would say if you set the table with a knife that looked like that! Flatware is meant to be polished.
     
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  3. StumptownJoe

    StumptownJoe Member

    Lol I wasn’t considering setting the table with it.
     
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  4. StumptownJoe

    StumptownJoe Member

    Handle is not metal. Sorry, the pic is not the best.
     
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  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    it could be bone...or a smooth antler.......
    looks like a bread knife....??
     
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  6. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I agree, looks like much-handled antler, and a breadknife.
     
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  7. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    butter knife
     
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  8. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    It's a place knife.
    As in knife, fork, spoon.
    Old style blade - late 1800s to early 1900s.
    Those old carbon steel blades cut meat very nicely. Better than what we are used to with stainless blades.
     
  9. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    If you get AUS 8 stainless knives they will out last the old carbon steel 1060/1070 blades any day.... https://blog.bladeops.com/review-of-aus-8-stainless-steel.html
    Most of the import knives with 400 series stainless blades are junk and have a hard time slicing a tomato with need of resharpening.
     
  10. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    The metal used for pocket knives and that used for kitchen service are of a different type.
    Can you show any place setting knives using AUS8?
     
  11. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

  12. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    Kitchen knives........... https://www.etsy.com/dk-en/listing/624291175/ibuki-aus-8-steel-kitchen-blank-blade
    https://www.knifepark.com/en/home/1975-samura-golf-kitchen-knives-set-in-japanese-steel-aus-8.html

    steak knives.... https://www.knifecenter.com/item/XI608KR/xikar-steak-knife-set-of-6

    Filet knives...

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  13. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Ooohhhh....goody..... a knife fight !!! :nailbiting::nailbiting::nailbiting::inpain:
     
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  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

  15. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    I am not disputing the fact that there is better steel for KITCHEN knives.
    My point (see the drop of blood :mad:;)) is that place setting knives (what you sit at the table and use) are not good stainless steel - in that they are not very sharp.
    I was only saying that the Old carbon steel used was a much better cutting blade than today's.
     
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