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Thoughts on era of this lamp?

Discussion in 'Furniture' started by curiouspat, Jan 24, 2020.

  1. curiouspat

    curiouspat New Member

    Hello to all!

    I recently purchased this lamp on ebay. Fell in love with the thing and simply couldn't resist. Didn't pay much so the value isn't important, but I've been trying to research what era it is from without much success (the conflicting info on the internet is mind boggling). Any thoughts from the people on this forum will be much appreciated!

    It's about 13" high with the lamp post, 10" high female dancer, 6" wide. Porcelain dancer (I think). Base is metal, magnet won't stick, but it's not heavy so probably not cast iron? The only marking I've found is what looks like "911" on the underside of the base. The cord is cloth. It appears the lamp "shade" would have been glass and would screw onto the upright post because there are threads on the outside of the bulb holder.

    Thanks much for your time. :)
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  2. Tom Mackay

    Tom Mackay Well-Known Member

  3. Tom Mackay

    Tom Mackay Well-Known Member

  4. curiouspat

    curiouspat New Member

    Thank you for responding! I saw those posts during my research but wasn't sure I could rely on their assessment of the era? And there is a lot of conflicting info regarding art deco vs. art nouveau vs. revival art deco … ugh! I was thinking 1920s or 1930s when I purchased it, but one of my friends thought 1960s or 1970s? It is a lovely piece in excellent condition, though.

    pat
     
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  5. Tom Mackay

    Tom Mackay Well-Known Member

    I bought a reproduction deco lamp early 80's, made 70's, but it had obviously contemporary lamp parts. The cloth cord is a point in favor on yours. The iridescence may give an expert a clue, that Leviton bulb socket also.
     
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  6. curiouspat

    curiouspat New Member

    "iridescence" … I was wondering what to call that look! lol. Thank you!
     
  7. sabre123

    sabre123 Well-Known Member

    There is nothing to say for sure if the Leviton is original, but likely is. I see "Patented" above the wattage. Is there a date by that? Leviton isn't really notorious for putting dates on their later stuff, so if it has one, it could be a clue.

    Base is probably some kind of "pot metal" / Spelter.

    Best replace that cloth cord if you don't particularly want to die.
     
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  8. sabre123

    sabre123 Well-Known Member

    The shade would not screw on the lamp holder. The fitters are sometimes referred to as UNO, and the threads on the holder are also referred to as UNO threads. You'd have a screw-in fitter ring, clamp-on fitter, or screw-in tripod shade holder that would screw onto the lamp holder. Here is a newer UNO style fitter ring:

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  9. curiouspat

    curiouspat New Member

    There is no date by the word "patented". Underneath patented it says "660 w. 250v." I think it's "250 v". It could be "260 v." but is a bit worn so hard to tell.

    I wouldn't use it without replacing the cord, but thank you for making sure I don't have oatmeal for brains. ;-)
     
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  10. curiouspat

    curiouspat New Member

    Ahhh … thank you! That makes far more sense than what I had in mind!
     
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  11. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    I buy brand new cloth lamp cord to keep it looking old. Often friends tell me "you need to change that lamp cord or you will get a fire". You can buy the new cord in gold, brown and different patterns. I think your iridescence dancer is a newer lamp not from the 1920s but more like the 1960s/70s.
    greg
     
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  12. sabre123

    sabre123 Well-Known Member

    I've bought new (old looking) cloth cord, too. But in this case, it's frayed and more than likely, very brittle. So "your friends'" admonishments would be legitimate. :)
     
  13. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    I think more 40s -50s as well .
     
  14. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    This is a tough one. First thought was 50s. But taking a closer look, with the screw part on the outside of the shade (suggesting a glass ball shade) combined with that older cloth cord and plug, I'm wondering if it was 1930s? Actual Deco era.

    Cool piece!
     
  15. 916Bulldogs123

    916Bulldogs123 Well-Known Member

    Could the statue and the base/lamp be a marriage? It just doesn't seem to fit and the screw on the bottom is a replacement.
    Mikey
     
  16. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    I wondered about that, but this link that Tom found shows the same two pieces together in another auction.

     
  17. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    JMHO.
    not worth it. made in Eastern Europe - therefore 250 Volts. glaze is a simile -or copy - of the old Eosin Glaze used by Zsolnay Pecs (Hungary), but has neither the fire nor the depth and brilliance.
     
  18. curiouspat

    curiouspat New Member

    Thank you! I think it's cool, too.
     
  19. curiouspat

    curiouspat New Member

    I figured European with the voltage listed. I paid $10 for it so it's quite worth it to me. :)
     
  20. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    so it's a keeper then. I thought you may list it somewhere.
     
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