Tiffin-Franciscan Glass Pattern: Lyndley or Carillon?

I found matches for my parent’s stemware (sherbets) on Replacements, but there are two similar patterns. Replacements calls these “Champagne/ Tall Sherbet” (5 ¼ inches high, 4 1/8 inches wide) in either the Lyndley (Platinum Trim) or the Carillon pattern by Tiffin-Franciscan. It think it is Carillon, but I would like to see if others agree.

Second Q: Is the stem cut or pressed glass? Replacements says both patterns are “blown glass” and calls the designs “cut leaves” (Lyndley) and “cut vines” (Carillon). My knowledge is limited, but I think that blown glass can be cut, but that pressed glass can be blown into the mold.

I am posting pictures of my parents’ crystal and giving the urls for Replacement’s “look-alikes” (because obviously I do not have the copyright to post their images).

https://www.replacements.com/crystal-tiffin-franciscan-lyndley-platinum-trim/c/102989

https://www.replacements.com/crysta...latinum-trim-champagne-tall-sherbet/p/7169841

https://www.replacements.com/crystal-tiffin-franciscan-carillon/c/102122

https://www.replacements.com/crystal-tiffin-franciscan-carillon-champagne-tall-sherbet/p/7151311

 

Replacements can sometime create confusion in the naming of makers and patterns. Tiffin was a part of U.S. Glass located in Tiffin, Ohio and changed names thru the years. Technically Tiffin and Franciscan should be listed separately to avoid confusion.

Your set could be either Tiffin or Franciscan 'Carillon'. It's a pressed pattern with cut motif.
Franciscan either made new stock using the Tiffin #17646 stem with the 'Carillon' cutting or more likely sold old stock with their Franciscan sticker. I couldn't find an ad or catalog for the Franciscan cutting named 'Carillon' but did locate an old listing on WP with a Franciscan sticker:
2 Tiffin Franciscan Carillon Water Goblets 6 1/2'' | #4899545419



'Carillon' with Tiffin sticker:
Tiffin Carillon Crystal Juice Glass Unused 4.75" | #2028692840

here's a bit of info on Tiffin history and other comparisons for their #17646 stem.

Tiffin history
Glass Etch and Pattern Gallery

Tiffin named the plain undecorated stem #17646 stem 'Kent'
Glass Etch and Pattern Gallery

the same stem with a cut leaf motif was named 'Lyndley'
Glass Etch and Pattern Gallery