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Trying to DATE Wedgwood

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by AEIOUfromEbay, Mar 14, 2021.

  1. AEIOUfromEbay

    AEIOUfromEbay New Member

    I bought a group of 6 cups and saucers, and trusted I would be able to find the dates by searching Google.

    3 days in, and I only know they are presumably before 1940 (?) because they do not have the copyright 'c' ...

    Have only found the 'Circle' logo, and have not found any reference to the number that is offset from the main logo.

    Have ZILCH on the rectangle logo, and have only gotten myself confused by the letter 'code' that the potters mark uses (having different letters = different years).

    Anybody out there feeling adventurous and kind that may be able to help me date these?

    I can offer help with Comic Book, Boy Scout, Record and CD, or other knowledge, but this is out of my main wheelhouse.
     
    AEIOUfromEbay, Mar 14, 2021
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  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    we'll need to see the cups themselves to help with identification...

    Help us, to help you !:happy:
     
    komokwa, Mar 14, 2021
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  3. Ce BCA

    Ce BCA Well-Known Member

    Edme pattern began in 1908 and is still made today.

    #1 mark from 1940+ (March 1955)
    #2 same as above - looks earlier than piece number 1
    #3 From 1929 until the mark in piece 1 took over (Last 2 impressed numbers are probably the year)

    Others all as per the three above.

    I think these green marks weren't used much after 1970 from working knowledge, but don't see a reference to confirm.

    The US marking shows these items were made for export to the US and the design was protected there as well as in the UK.
     
    Ce BCA, Mar 14, 2021
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  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    so much for needing to see the cups !!........SIGH............;):playful::playful:
     
    komokwa, Mar 14, 2021
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  5. AEIOUfromEbay

    AEIOUfromEbay New Member

    THANK YOU !

    Do you come by your knowledge from experience, or do you have reference guides? Not doubting, just wanting to know how to find this type of information.

    I recently got a Chinese fish (Carp) with markings, and was able to decipher the meaning after a lot of Google Image searches, and then found some 'Occupied Japan' Figurines, and am finding most of those.

    Wedgwood is my big defeat at the moment (until now) and I'd love to know if there are places I should reference, beyond the "Big Three" that I've seen posted on this board a few times.
     
    AEIOUfromEbay, Mar 14, 2021
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  6. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    What do you consider "the Big Three" AEIOU?
     
    Bakersgma, Mar 14, 2021
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  7. Ce BCA

    Ce BCA Well-Known Member

    Both, in this case most of my reference works are too early and deal with 19th century. Godden has a decent(ish) page on Wedgwood which I got the 1929+ date from due to the font used. Dating system I remember from years ago, I used to sell quite a lot of antique Wedgwood. Green Barlaston marks were commonly no mid century creamware which used to be popular in the early 2000's.

    I went to check some facts on the WW museum site, but most of the info now seems to have gone from there. It used to have a great deal of historical documents and original source material, shame if they have taken it off.
     
    Ce BCA, Mar 14, 2021
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  8. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    say_it_slowly, Mar 14, 2021
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  9. Peachy Keen

    Peachy Keen New Member

    REPLACEMENTS - VAST INVENTORY AND RESEARCH OF MARKS. iF YOU WANT TO KNOW VALUE, YOU PROBABLY HAVE TO CALL IF YOU WANT PRICE RANGE.
    https://www.replacements.com/
     
    Peachy Keen, Mar 17, 2021
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  10. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Why are u writing in ALL CAPS ???
     
    komokwa, Mar 17, 2021
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  11. Peachy Keen

    Peachy Keen New Member

    WHY NOT? I BROKE MY ARM.
    WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE ?
     
    Peachy Keen, Mar 17, 2021
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  12. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    Because in PC work all capitals is like screaming at people.
    Sorry about your arm but we have people here who only have one arm and they well without screaming.
    greg
     
    gregsglass, Mar 17, 2021
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  13. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    Replacements has marks identification? I think I've been missing that, how does one find it?
     
    say_it_slowly, Mar 17, 2021
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  14. Peachy Keen

    Peachy Keen New Member

    Peachy Keen, Mar 17, 2021
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  15. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    komokwa, Mar 17, 2021
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  16. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    Ah I see, you mean contact them for marks rather than they make the info available online.
     
    say_it_slowly, Mar 17, 2021
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  17. Peachy Keen

    Peachy Keen New Member

    Yes.
    Occasionally when I have a pattern with variations of the mark, I search for logos of that company and have been successful finding the range of dates with the logo changes.
     
    Peachy Keen, Mar 17, 2021
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  18. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    say_it_slowly, Mar 17, 2021
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  19. AEIOUfromEbay

    AEIOUfromEbay New Member

    As I searched Wedgwood here, there seemed to be 3 sites mentioned over and over ... and I looked them high and low, but never found the info I was looking for.

    I believe they are: https://antique-marks.com/wedgwood-marks.html

    https://collectingwedgwood.com/identification-and-dating

    and

    https://paulusporcelain.com/a-guide-to-collecting-wedgwood-edme/

    which were the ones that kept coming up .. no matter if i tried watermark, mark, or potter mark.
     
    AEIOUfromEbay, Mar 18, 2021
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  20. BoudiccaJones

    BoudiccaJones Well-Known Member

    ... it's rude. No need for yelling. And you were SO rude to a very treasured member whom I think a lot of. Not a great start,is it?


    Edit...somewhat redeemed
     
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2021
    BoudiccaJones, Mar 18, 2021
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