Two handcut wooden ornaments Indonesia ?

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  1. gerspee

    gerspee Well-Known Member

    A new buy and anybody any idea's about age and who are these Goddesses ? The bird looks like a Fenix bird at her feet . So give me clues and where to find similar cuttings ? Thanks 2020_05_17_14_24_IMG_0778 (Medium).JPG 2020_05_17_14_23_IMG_0773 (Medium).JPG 2020_05_17_14_24_IMG_0781 (Medium).JPG 2020_05_17_14_24_IMG_0782 (Medium).JPG
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  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    They are both modern souvenirs in a Balinese-inspired style. Could have been made on Bali, maybe Lombok, or anywhere else where someone set up a souvenir carving industry.
    A Balinese Goddess with a bird is usually Saraswati, but her mount is either a swan or a peacock. Maybe the bird is supposed to be a peacock?
    You can find similar carvings in home decor places that import from Indonesia.
  3. wiscbirddog

    wiscbirddog Well-Known Member

    I do believe you mean phoenix not fenix. :rolleyes:
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  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Dutch spelling influence, Ger is Dutch.:) One of the Dutch words for phoenix is feniks.
  5. gerspee

    gerspee Well-Known Member

    YEs very Dutch so spelling mistakes are my hallmark :playful: But just decoration or not the bird looks to as the phoenix and the hands off the goddess also also with two fingers folded on each hand on the same strange way . And the left arm is going under the clothes and get's out at the front again showing the hand .So me think there must be some message about her in these ways off showing her
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  6. Firemandk

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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Not strange, it is the classic Hindu-Buddhist hand position called 'karana mudra', for warding off evil. All Hindu divinities use mudras to indicate their intention.
    The arm doesn't go under her clothes, the two ends of her dance shawl are slung over her arms, like a stole.

    The dance shawl is the yellow thing seen on this Javanese dancer from Yogyakarta. The centre of the shawl is tucked under her belt and the two ends are used to indicate air and the flight of divine beings. Similar shawls are used in some Balinese dances.


    The ends hanging down:

    Simulating flight:

    These last two are of Bedoyo dancers from Surakarta, Java. The Bedoyo is the most beautiful dance of Indonesia, imo. Very graceful and tranquil.
    Commercial carvers tend to copy what sells well. If many people buy statues with the karana mudra, karana mudra it is.;)
    I don't know where these decorative pieces are made, for all I know they could be made by Muslims.:oops:
    Last edited: May 18, 2020
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  8. gerspee

    gerspee Well-Known Member

    Thanks Any Jewelry for your good explanation and nice to know more about the carvings . So pleased now :)
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  9. mmarco102

    mmarco102 Well-Known Member

    I do believe, your write. ;)
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  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Off curse hee is.:smuggrin:
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  11. mmarco102

    mmarco102 Well-Known Member

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  12. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Here here!:singing:
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