Two Snall gilt and blue plates

Hello everyone,
Can anybody tell me anything about these haha.

My dad got these in a box of places and such and really liked them. The gilding is striking indeed.

Any facts about them welcome. They are fully unmarked so it’s jusy a free for all of basic Pottery knowledge.

 

They're not only fully unmarked, they're invisible!

 

Well......magically before our eyes for you today the afore promised plates on the flesh xD ta dah.

Forgot to upload any photos haha

 

Mid 1800s
Probably English

Heavy Gold Gilt Flow Blue.
https://www.google.com/search?clien.....1c.1.64.img..0.0.0....0.9P3yZMC9or0#imgrc=_

Doulton seems to have been very proficient at it. However, I am not saying these are Doulton.
https://www.google.com/search?q=RAR...BQ8Q_AUICygC&biw=1131&bih=565&dpr=1.5#imgrc=_

https://bernardisantiques.com/product/pair-english-porcelain-lamps-c-1860/

 

What an incredible reply! @clutteredcloset49 . Perfect!

Wish they were worth anything close to a pair of lamps flow blue and gilt but that’s marvellous I’ll remember that forever now. Yeh doulton would be marked probably anyway.

 

Can you determine a date range if something is flow blue

 

I'm no expert in this area.
From what I remember. Flow blue occurred when the Staffordshire potters developed transferware patterns sometime in the very late 1700s or early 1800s.
If I remember correctly they were trying to imitate the blue and white Chinese import china. The patterns ran during firing creating the blurred blue that is called "Flow Blue".

Mid 1800s through the late 1890s, maybe even early 1900s would have seen the most Flow Blue being made.

Again this is all from memory.
Someone will be along to correct me and give better information.

 

Not Doulton Burslem, they'd be marked. I agree on mid 19th onwards and English. Yes, blue transfer and hence flow started quite early: late 18th and was indeed in imitation of Chinese porcelain.

 

But there is no flow here.

 

Fair bit of blurriness on the flowers, so flow isn't a bad term. The gilding is covering more, I suspect.

 

If it were flow blue, the whole transfer would flow. The outlines of everything here are crisp. The blurry floral centers aren't the result of the transfer flowing. I think using the word flow is misleading, and I don't really mean to be harsh, but sellers use it for everything to try to make a sale.

 

Hi Janetpjohn,
I agree wholeheartedly with you. I have seen all kinds of stuff marked flowblue and not a blurr anywhere in sight.
greg

 

I don't mind being corrected.
What would you call this type of pottery?

 

I’ll send you some closer photos tomorrow. Looked like flow to me when I looked it up. Is the case @clutteredcloset49 linked not flow blue either?