Featured Unknown Italian(?) Urn/Vase

Dear Pottery Experts,

I have joined Your awesome forum to ask for Your collective expertise concerning a particular piece of pottery I own. It is a blue/white urn/vase, please see the images I have attached. Unfortunately at some point in the past (before I got it) the base has been badly damaged, repaired and filled up completely. Thus, no markings can be observed anymore. After some internet research I came to believe that it has a resemblance to the pottery created around Savona, Italy.

Would You kindly be able to look at the photograph and share Your opinion with me?
1. Do You think it could have been made in that region? If not, would You have a suggestion for me what I should look for?
2. If yes, do You suppose it to be an older piece? Or does it seem more recent? Does it have qualities typical of a certain period? If not, do You suppose it is a replica of some sort?

Thank You all in advance for Your hints!

 

Welcome, gunmano. That is beautiful.
Great photos, could we see the base as well?

 

Hi Gunmano!

Welcome to Antiquers.......

Sorry to say that I can't help, but others will be along to offer their opinions.

 

Yes the base please. And welcome!

It does make me think of Cantagalli pieces so you might look in that direction too.

 

Welcome. Great pictures and an excellent explanation. Thank you for sharing your piece. It is very interesting. Sorry I have no expertise to offer you.

 

Thank You all so much for the warm welcome and the input You have provided.
I have attached an photo from the base as well. Unfortunately, the base has been completely filled up with plaster(?) when it was repaired at some point in the past, so no markings can be seen anymore.

Thanks for the Cantagalli hint. That came up during searches as well. (That is actually how I came across Your forum.)

The main point of difference in opinion between me and my wife is about whether it is an old object, or some sort of recent replica. During internet research I came to believe that it has to be an antique, as I was unable to find any replica or new item like this.

However, the shape of the body seems to be different from most of the Savona/Cantagalli vases or urns. I actually had no luck finding a matching body shape.

Again, thank You all for Your input. So great to hear from like-minded fellow enthusiasts.

 

looks as if someone stabilized the foot with alabaster gesso.

 

Hello, I think your vase is newer, rather than 19thc or so, mainly because of the quality of the details - the central reserves are quite well executed but the foot and field areas are a bit hastily done and lack the usual care we see in older pieces. That points to a later date in my experience.

There is also a very good chance that this vase was once a lamp, imho.

 

Alabaster gesso? I don't think you can apply gesso that thick with any success ..at least I couldn't afford the drying time

It's just some plaster of paris.

 

Paris is also good.

 

I read your site all the time if you look at the foot rim you’ll
See it has been damage it has been repair the plaster put on
Bottom to stabilizing damage, John

 

John, just in case you ever work with gesso. the faster it dries out, the more it shrinks. so most probably it would fall out of a foot as we have here.

 

Sadly the most expert person for Italian ceramics died a few months ago and he is sorely missed.

Here is link to his site in case any old discussions might give you some information.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/italianpotterymarks/

 

That is sad indeed, without even knowing the person. :-(

Thank You for the link. I have checked it out.