Featured Vintage silver bracelet & pendant - Mark help

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  1. BMRT

    BMRT Jewelry cherry-picker, lover of silver

    Greetings,

    I haven’t had much success in learning anything else about who may have made these and where they came from.

    Both pendant and bracelet had been listed as “Biedermeier style, 835 silver”. The garnets in the bracelet have a few cracks in them and the pendant has a random rod-like protrusion in it like it was a part of something more ornate. They both look like they got a bit of a beating at some point. My question for everyone is can anyone make out what these marks are? And does this style look consistent with what it was listed as? I am not familiar with Biedermeier jewelry and the sellers thought these are from the 1930s.

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    Here are the marks on the bracelet: 96217BFF-391F-481F-A7C0-E2835CF8D039.jpeg D1F15774-7A4C-43A5-BF8B-F3731E3B4065.jpeg 126E03F3-D8C9-44FF-8495-5AF5A00FCB43.jpeg 4E6F9112-2A56-4E89-8C2C-B05A30FD700F.jpeg

    And here are the marks on the pendant: 8C94EA11-9A3C-4F92-955E-946B122D4A19.jpeg 2A104FA5-9E11-48D2-A4D9-156AB9261716.jpeg 52A8AC3E-4808-4F10-AF67-B36009E4C2D6.jpeg
     
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  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    you always have such nice taste !!!:happy::happy:
     
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  3. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I'd be looking at Austria for this one. It looks like one of the printed marks I can't read says Austria; that's what's known as a clue. (LOL)
     
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  4. BMRT

    BMRT Jewelry cherry-picker, lover of silver

    Your so kind, thank you
     
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  5. BMRT

    BMRT Jewelry cherry-picker, lover of silver

    I’m apparently blind. Which one says Austria? :bag: I’ll start looking at Austrian marks.
     
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  6. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    I suffer from that frequently :hilarious:
     
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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    They are gorgeous, BMRT. I agree, the style is Austrian and south German. It is a 20th century continuation of the famous Austro-Hungarian Historic Revival style. These are often worn with regional costumes.

    It looks like they have been imported into the Netherlands at some stage. This jewellery was also imported into the Netherlands, on a small scale.
    The first mark you showed is shaped like a Dutch silver weight mark, although I am not familiar with what is inside the mark. There should be a number.
    The second mark has an overlapping Dutch ZII mark. ZII is for 835 silver which was imported, unmarked antique Dutch, or of unknown origin.

    I would not buy anything of this relatively recent age with cracked stones. You can still find those bracelets on the German and Austrian ebays. These were and still are popular, not very rare, so you don't have to settle for cracked stones.

    My guess for the bracelet is 1950s, the pendant could be older.
    I think the pendant is a real beauty. I would buy it in a heartbeat (for the right price).
     
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  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Another blind mouse here, I can't see it either.:shame:
     
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  9. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    It's the upside down one, below the KK image.
     
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  10. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    JMHO.
    the 835 could be a mark by the German customs for testing what it really is. the stones may be Gablonz, and this town belonged to the Kronland Böhmen of the KK Austrian Empire.
    furthermore. many people do not know that the jewellers in Gablonz stamped whatever was asked for, especially when it was a bigger charge/lot. if you asked for a Made in France - bam the hammer hit it in and off it went to France.
    so it might be late German or Austrian Historismus.
     
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  11. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Can't say I see 'AUSTRIA', maybe a misread on the '835W?' mark (which appears to be '835WS' on similar pieces), but can clearly see a 1922+ Austrian 3rd standard/835 'hoopoe-head' stamp next to the 'KK+' mark, can't make out the city letter, but similar items identify it as 'L' for Linz...

    http://www.silvercollection.it/DICTIONARYEUHALLMARKAUSTRIA.HTML

    ~Cheryl
     
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  12. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Now it looks like 835 IA, if upside down and blurred out. That silver fineness is usually Central Europe. I'm still betting on Austria or possibly the Czech Republic. It's a coin-flip.
     
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  13. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    It has an Austrian mark...

    ~Cheryl
     
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  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I read that as a right side up 835 with either W or IV.:confused:
    The Czechs never made this Austrian style, besides, the mark is Austrian.:)
     
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  15. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Took me a while to recognize it, I kept seeing Woodstock, the bird from the Peanuts.:hilarious:
     
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  16. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    That would date it to 1969 or later. :):):) Just kidding, of course.
     
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  17. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    :joyful:
     
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