WHAT ARE THESE 3 DIPLOMAS? CERTIFICATES? FROM SPAIN

I bought these from a friend who owns a used furniture store/thrift store for $25 for the 3.
I know they are from Spain but that's it! What are they?
I see King Franco and on another Carlos?
I googled Spain diploma - but all that popped up was "Fake Diplomas from Spain" for $400!! lol
I appreciate any help.

 

Franco was never King of Spain, although he sure ran the country like he thought he was. Generalismo Francisco Franco was a 20th century dictator. I'm not really sure what those documents are about. But they're dated in 1975.

Juan Carlos I really was King of Spain after the monarchy was restored. That document seems to be appointing an Ambassador or Consul from Spain to Switzerland in 1976.

The same person is involved all the documents neither of which is a diploma.

 

This looks like the same certificate as first one you posted... Sold as an autograph, which looks to be valuable

Order of Isabella the Catholic wiki

SPAIN Francisco Franco autograph mark diploma document appointing Caballero 1952

the ebay image links are busted - this is from google.

 

So the Franco ones are honoring people by appointing them to the "The Order of Isabella The Catholic" (like Queen Elizabeth II in England honoring people by appointing them to The Order of the Garter? or knighthood?) - there must be different levels of the honor. Caballero and Comendador?

Why would people think these are "diplomas?"

And here's Franco's Wiki page - before he died in 1975 he ordered the monarchy restored upon his death, so Juan Carlos became King then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Franco

 

They're not diplomas. They have to do with a Spanish diplomat Patricio Aguirre de Cárcer y Alvarado who died in 2002. Here's his death notice in ABC, Spain's conservative newspaper.

http://hemeroteca.abc.es/nav/Navigate.exe/hemeroteca/madrid/abc/2002/10/10/067.html

Apparently, he was awarded two orders by Franco, both at the grade of Comendador.

Orden de Isabel la Católica (1965)
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orden_de_Isabel_la_Católica

Orden del Mérito Civil (1969)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Civil_Merit

In 1976 (in his first 6 months on the throne,) Juan Carlos I named him as Spanish Consul in Berne, Switzerland and issued a document authorizing him as such and requesting that the President of the Swiss Confederation recognize him as such.

Debora

 

Thanks all!
So is that Franco's signature on 1st one? It looks like both names start with what could be a fancy F?

 

It's a certificate or award. A diploma would be awarded to someone who had completed a course of study.

 

Just looked at order of Isabella - mine has a stamp & signature on back too - I will photograph & post tomorrow.
Thanks again all - Happy Holidays!!

 

Just my opinion, but it looks like both Franco signatures are identical and likely to have been stamped instead of actually signed.

 

"General Francisco Franco is Still Dead" was a running joke on SNL and Lampoon in the 70s

 

I was going to ask if anyone else remembered that one!

 

The order's current regulations date from 1998 as approved by Royal Decree 2395/1998, of 6 November. Among its provisions, the categories of Banda de Dama, Cruz de Caballero and Lazo de Dama were repealed to avoid possible interpretations of there being gender discrimination. Notwithstanding this, for aesthetic and functional reasons, the ladies who are decorated use reduced versions of the insignia of each degree of the Order.

Would an "order" be passed down to descendants? My question answered:

A royal family order is a decoration conferred by the head of a royal family to their female relations. Such an order is considered more of a personal memento than a state decoration, although it may be worn during official state occasions.

 

Good to know

How to describe the how much fun the National Lampoon was. I still have the "Yearbook" a CLASSIC!!!!!

 

I suspect all signatures are stamped; these documents would have been issued in multiples.

Debora

 

You had to be there, just no way to convey - right down to the end of school year autographs. Perfection: full PDF

 

Collectors will know which are auto signed - there's nothing right or wrong with a machine generated signature.

When is an Autograph Not an Autograph?


Thomas Jefferson's autograph machine.

 

a fun bunch of stuff to come across, @journeymagazine ! Love

 

Here's a (framed) comparable from a Spanish online sales site. Asking €80.

https://www.todocoleccion.net/milit...an-cruz-orden-merito-civil-ano-1975~x42332156

Debora

 

I cannot believe you can search a pdf for these characters by name in a publication from the 70s...

 

Talk about a coinkydink! A program I'm watching tonight (a dramatized account of spies during the Revolutionary Way) had one of these in the spymaster's workshop!