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Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Brian Warshaw, Mar 27, 2025.

  1. Brian Warshaw

    Brian Warshaw Well-Known Member

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    The Noritake plate in this photograph was sold on Ebay from Japan, by a professional for $240. The diameter is 16cm. Trim is gold, despite looking black. What is special about it to warrant this price?

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    This Noritake Mark is sported by the items in photographs 1 and 3.

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    This is the same pattern as that in photograph 1. The footed dish is slightly smaller than the plate with a diameter of 13cm. The gold trim can be seen in the above photograph.

    On reflection there are slight differences in the background, but this is possibly due to different decorators.

    I would like you opinions of the sale price the footed dish might raise.

    Thank you for participating.
     
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  2. dgbjwc

    dgbjwc Well-Known Member

    $240 seems a bit high to me for this shape and decoration. I don't find these types of pieces to be strong sellers here in the United States. Generally, the pieces that sell well here are unusual shapes with unusual decoration. It's certainly possibe that these pieces are more desirable in other locations. The mark is usually referred to as a Komaru backstamp. This backstamp came in several variations. My eyesight isn't good enough to see the detail in your example. I'm listing a link below to the Gotheborg site that shows several Komaru marks. Maybe you could find your backstamp there. https://gotheborg.com/marks/noritake.shtml
     
  3. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Where I am, you're lucky to sell them at any price. A local dealer who buys from me won't even look at the ones from Japan. They don't sell here.
     
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  4. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Noritake doesn't command much interest this side of the pond either. Can't see why it would sell for that much other than maybe a collector desperate to complete a set or the buyer being naive? Some of the pedestal fruit bowls with bases fetch a few quid but just a plate? Don't get it.
     
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  5. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Hand-painted Royal Worcester on the other hand...whee, but Noritake just doesn't get much respect.
     
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  6. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Interesting comparison to draw. Do you think some of the more elaborate noritake stuff is on the same level as Worcester? I know the first Noritake item I found in a charity shop made me think 'Wow, bet this is worth a fortune' then it took a year to sell and I got less than £5 back for it. I've held a couple of Worcester pieces in my hands and give me the cobalt blue and rich gold filigree any day of the week, but regarding the standard of art, does this compare? Is it all hand painted or are more production line techniques used? I know Noritake seems a lot more abundant? I see it on my travels quite frequently. Is it more common place or are people just more likely to give it away because it's not a la mode?
     
  7. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    The highest end of Noritake is pretty sweet, if you like that sort of thing. No matter how good it is though, it doesn't have the Worcester name on the bottom and the name drives the price. Neither is to my personal taste, but my dad's mother would have liked it.
     
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  8. Brian Warshaw

    Brian Warshaw Well-Known Member

    Thank you all. I cannot see any reason for the big price ticket either.
     
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