What is the age and style of this dresser?

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  1. Daniel oshaughnessy

    Daniel oshaughnessy Active Member

    100_1141.JPG Found this piece a few days ago...rescued it from the land fill and the rain. It is all pine with mahogany veneer on the front, not the drawers. The rest has a reddish brown wash, paint? I'm thinking it is early to mid 19th century. Looks really old. The surface is untouched. i am going to clean it and give it a wax polish. Another found piece for my guest room. Any opinions on age and style? :)

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  2. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Circa 1850. Late classical. Think the whole thing was originally veneered.
     
  3. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    ZZZZZZ 100_1140.JPG Totally agree with Brad's dating, but to me, the strip from under the top down where I've pointed, looks like it's been either added or replaced.......JMHO!!!
     
  4. silverthwait

    silverthwait Well-Known Member

    Except for the above-mentioned strip, and the fancy work on the bottom, my parents had its sibling -- yanked out of an old silo by my father.
     
  5. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    I was going to ask if that part that Aquitaine pointed at was a secret drawer.
    Can you pull the top drawer out and look there?

    Agree with the early to mid 1800s. However, I'm going to disagree with the veneer.
    I think it was regionally made of native fruitwoods.

    Was this a family piece? What part of the country?

    @James Conrad
     
  6. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Going with Brad on this one, typical mid 19th century panel construction in what looks like tulip poplar to me, for sure on secondary drawer construction & probably entire chest.
    Yes, it lost most of it's mahogany veneer somewhere along the way, probably in the 1960-70s stripping craze when everything just HAD to be early american. If people weren't stripping paint they were stripping veneer for some reason. Machine made except for the drawer boxes.
    Late Classical style, sometimes incorrectly called Empire revival, VERY popular in it's day, literally millions were made between 1840s-1900 or so.
     
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  7. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    A quick google brought this up on ebay, supposed to be American Empire C 1820.
    This was the "LOOK" everyone wanted back then and, OP chest is the same form, just missing most of the decorations like, carved paw/beast feet, doric columns, brass inlay & pulls & gilded surfaces.
    American Empire furniture marked the end of handmade furniture in america (ditto federal styles sheraton & hepplewhite) and the beginning of machine made furniture like OP chest starting in the 1840s.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/361653078995


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  8. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    And this is what american furniture factories came up with to satisfy that demand & was affordable.
    What OP chest looked like when new. Restored 1840-50 late classical Chest


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  9. Daniel oshaughnessy

    Daniel oshaughnessy Active Member

    This was a curbside find. I live in N.E. PA. There is no secret drawer. The whole piece being veneered doesn't make sense to me, as the reddish milk painted surface and top have patina and wear from great age and use.
     
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  10. Daniel oshaughnessy

    Daniel oshaughnessy Active Member

    Thanks for the info...the top and the drawer fronts are pine.
     
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  11. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    OK but, why a band of veneer at top & bottom & not the drawer fronts?
    OK, the secondary wood ( drawer sides) on drawers looks like poplar in photo.
     
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  12. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    I don't see any milk paint. I get the feeling that the top may not be original to this. The second example James posted is a very good comparable.
     
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  13. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Ditto, or what could have happened is, they routered/ molding plane, a molded edge on existing top.
     
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  14. Daniel oshaughnessy

    Daniel oshaughnessy Active Member

    You absolutely know your stuff..not disputing, but why remove most of the veneer and not all of it? Maybe they could not afford to veneer the whole thing? Why go to the trouble to strip down such a nondescript piece. It looked country or primitive to me. Maybe they were going for contrast in the choice of woods for a certain look.
     
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  15. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

     
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  16. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    OOPS! whole post got quoted!

    Good question, why not remove it all.
    What usually happens on veneer is it gets damaged, bubbles, buckles, seams come loose, etc and it gets scraped off, why they left those bands on front i have no clue, perhaps it was tight to substrate below so they left it alone.
    I think more likely as Brad noted, entire chest was originally veneered and, veneer ran into issues so they removed it.
     
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