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  1. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    5789B727-BBB4-4E92-9E36-F1A6FA11B806.jpeg 6B9728D3-B838-4B73-9F0A-A69456C809E4.jpeg It’s on the back of a Buddha head (guan yin?) but not sure what it’s called?
     
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  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Sumatrabathadathawayangtullangobodihartha.........or something like that !!
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    :happy::beaver::beaver::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::confused::confused::confused::rolleyes::rolleyes::eek:
     
  3. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Ooooooh.:jawdrop::happy: (faint)

    It is Hindu-Javanese, from Java, Indonesia.(faint again)
    Take it somewhere to have its authenticity checked!!!!! (and then send it to me :shame:)
    It is Hindu, btw, the head of a Hindu deity or king. Can be both on Java, since kings were deified.
    You really need to have it checked, there are many fakes. But even if this is a fake, it is very beautiful.
    The thing at the back is a Javanese hair clasp with a Garuda head, called 'Garuda Mungkur'. Garuda is a mythical eagle.
     
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  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    A Javanese diadem with a Garuda Mungkur:
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    The same on a Wayang puppet:
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    You've made my day, btw.:happy::happy::happy::happy::happy::happy::happy::happy::happy::happy::happy:
     
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  5. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    Thanks so much for the answer and being excited by it. That would certainly explain why my Buddhism rabbit hole wasn’t taking me to it. Specifically I was thinking Thai. Had it all wrong. I knew I recognized the face from somewhere and it’s probably from the very puppets you posted. I’ve seen a handful of those puppets. I was excited when I found it and I hoped it was real obviously. The photos looked convincing and the seller had some legit nice stuff. Now that I have it in hand I’m not sure. Something seems off about the patina although I can’t pinpoint it exactly. I have a couple of repro archaic Chinese vases with applied patina and it reminds me of those. The big thing though is the inside of the head is super clean. If it were real and from a broken statue I’d expect it to look like it had been around a long time in there. However it’s spotless. So going on that I was leaning towards in being a reproduction. I definitely hope I’m wrong! Thanks
     
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  6. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    So am I, but it is worth having it checked anyway.
    One thing that puzzles me is the material. It looks like terracotta, which was used mostly in the East Javanese Majapahit Empire, 1293-ca 1500. The style, however, is Central Javanese, and older than Majapahit.
    A similar style is found in the Prambanan temple complex on the Dieng Plateau near Jogyakarta, which was begun by the Sanjaya dynasty ca 850. The Dieng Plateau statues are carved from a grey stone.

    My parents had a grey stone head in Prambanan style, also on a plinth, but that was much more clearly a replica.
    I really love yours, replica or not, and would have bought it in a heartbeat.

    Prambanan:

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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Majapahit terracottas are fairly small, and the many fakes are usually recognised by their crisp carving. Yours is nothing like it, not in style, and not in the fake crisp carving.

    This is a Majapahit terracotta, a little lady I inherited:

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  8. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    Wow you’re pretty dang knowledgeable on this subject! I love absolutely anything with that much age. Having something truly old really excites me, no matter what it is. It’s weird I wouldn’t have probably bought this if I saw it on eBay but on a local marketplace site I had to have it before someone else took it. That’s a whole different story.

    It is actually not stone or pottery at all though. I probably should have mentioned the material. It’s a copper alloy, probably leaning towards bronze but seems to be heavier on copper than most bronze. It’s totally hollow.
     
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  9. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    Beautiful piece and very nicely mounted. Also nicely photographed. I really like it. It reminds me slightly of the pre columbian heads I collect when I get them real cheap. Plenty of repros there too. I wonder how many are real vs fake? Guessing the majority are not real.
     
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  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Ah, thanks for clarifying, that's a different story. In that case, if it is a replica, it is likely to be an antique replica, if that makes sense. Around 1900 nice metal replicas were made in the old Hindu-Javanese style.
    Still, best to find someone to take a look, preferably in person.:)
     
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  11. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    :joyful::hilarious::hilarious:
     
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  12. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    Underrated comedic gem. :)
     
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  13. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    Just bumped into this randomly. It is Garuda as well, right? Guessing not a whole ton of age. E1884008-3619-4D49-B144-A8CC06771B04.jpeg B2BF901E-E4E3-436C-B299-501CC6B47DC9.jpeg 0B927C60-DA5F-4410-8ADC-7FD91A090396.jpeg
     
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  14. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    I believe this one is Hanuman, the Monkey King. I have one somewhat similar, carved as a keris holder. Yours does not appear to have a suitable opening through the hand to hold a keris. Not old.
     
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  15. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    Ah that makes sense. Does look monkey like now that you mention it. This one I just found for sale, didn’t buy it. Yours holds an actual keris or a scaled down version?
     
  16. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I agree, Hanuman, from Bali. Probably 1950s, and poor quality.
    Good!;)
    So have I, both the regular size and a miniature, to hold a 'keris dukun' or small healing keris.

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  17. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    I think he would hold a regular keris (I don't have one). I would post a photo of him, but he has had some run-ins with the cats over the years, and a few parts are no longer attached. :(
     
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    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

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  20. J Dagger

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    Dang ol cats. My friend just got a couple kittens. Visiting them made me miss having a cat and I started thinking about maybe adopting one. Then I realized how much stuff would get destroyed the way I have it out. I leave way to much expensive stuff piled on every surface and dangling on every edge. I nearly destroy things (and sometimes do) anytime I have to move something big or dig anything out.
     
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