Featured Wood Box-Hand Painted Floral-Ornate Metal Design & Celluloid??..Who Made It??

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  1. SPERLS

    SPERLS sperls

    It has a label on bottom...I can`t make it out??...Any help appreciated! IMG_0903.JPG IMG_0902.JPG IMG_0905.JPG IMG_0904.JPG IMG_0906.JPG
     
  2. i need help

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    ?P. Visconde de Bivat or Bivar
    Maybe.
    Portimao- (Portugal)
     
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  3. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Not much help:

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  4. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    The shop name is "Leal." Leal appears to be a Portimao surname; must have been a small family run ouriversaria or jewelry store.

    Debora
     
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  5. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    P. Visconde de Bivar. The "P." stands for praca or square.

    Debora
     
  6. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    The metal looks like sterling.
    Are you sure the trim is celluloid? Looks like MOP, but I could be wrong.

    Very nice box.
     
  7. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Box won't be very old. 1960s or 1970s. Trim plastic mother of pearl look-alike. Could be silver but alpaca more likely.

    Debora
     
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  9. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Antique? Sterling silver? Hum...

    Debora
     
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  10. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    I could only find on good comparison (but poor quality photographs) on Google Portugal. This one is older but I'm not sure I would call it "antique." Seller says it's silver and over 50 years old. Do notice the elaborate sides.

    Debora

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  11. SPERLS

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  12. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS!!!

    I'm seeing, on blowing up the computer screen "P. Vistondede Bivat", bottom 'frown' shaped letters I'm seeing maybe a J off to the left, then P CRI?M?, and above all, I'm seeing LARGE 'frown'..."UU or UVRIVE 5 A? RIA?....and LASTLY, I see in the middle in large bold spaced letters straight across 'L E A L E' (not sure about the last E)......of course I could be 'blind as the proverbial bat' too :joyful::joyful::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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  13. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    You can find these silver-mounted boxes pretty easily on Portuguese and Brazilian sites - many have their purpose indicated, in addition to the 'Jewelry' boxes, they're also found as glove, hankie, stamp, cigarette boxes, etc. The floral painting on this one seems uncommon...

    I've had one of the Art Deco/Moderne style jewelry boxes for maybe thirty years, enjoying the incongruity of the ornate mounts on the streamlined box - it's veneered (probably walnut) and does appear to have celluloid trim and bakelite handle, but may well be other plastics (have seen some almost completely covered with plastic), have little doubt the mounts are solid silver of some fineness despite no marks being present.

    Mine is packed away, but it's very similar to the one on the left in this pic:
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    They're made in a variety of shapes, and the ones with the fancy ribbed sides like in Debora's picture are usually older, most made of Brazilian rosewood, those often bear pre-1938 Portuguese marks, usually second standard (.833), and have also seen them with labels indicating solid silver. When age is suggested, it's generally somewhere from early to mid 20th century...

    Silver and rosewood: https://www.google.com/search?q=caixa+de+jóias+de+jacarandá+de+prata&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWydWzreDcAhVKq1MKHdrOCCEQ_AUICygC&biw=1536&bih=759#imgrc=_

    Silver and wood: https://www.google.com/search?biw=1536&bih=759&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=b7FrW4XBEoeRggeti7WADQ&q=caixa+de+jóias+de+madeira+de+prata&oq=caixa+de+jóias+de+madeira+de+prata&gs_l=img.12...48439217.48439217.0.48441498.1.1.0.0.0.0.75.75.1.1.0....0...1c.1.64.img..0.0.0....0.16-GZOkW4bo

    ~Cheryl
     
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  14. SPERLS

    SPERLS sperls

    Thank you for ALL this Information!!...I LOVE this Site!!!
     
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